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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No, I'd say that, sometimes deliberately, not recognising clear and obvious cultural and behavioural issues and differences between people who also just happen to look a little different is the problem. As usual, your assertion is backwards. Untrue. It is completely accepted that there are elements within cultural groups who cause a disproportionate amount of problems. It’s those elements that need targeting and to be dealt with. Not those who happen to look like them.m
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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 24 7.44pm | |
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Still asking for information? Dude it's been three years and as can be seen the video is available and the suspect on camera. Yet the FBI have arrested 1200 people in relation to January 6th. This wasn't walking in a building these were viable death causing bombs. But apparently no one should be asking questions.....which is certainly all I'm saying here. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2024 7.45pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.45pm | |
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There would be little point in researching anything that doesn’t exist. As I try not to waste time on obvious blind alleys I’ll leave it there.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.54pm | |
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Videos surrounding the discovery of the pipe bombs have been available for a very long time. That’s not the problem. It’s identifying for certain who those in them are and what they are doing. That remains only speculation no matter how definitive some try to make their assumptions.
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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 24 8.01pm | |
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No, it's important people click the link and watch what Carlson says here. This is not video that's been available for a long time. This is video only recently obtained and not easily and it raises significant questions. People are right to be suspicious around this and until we get proper answers for both the lack of action and answers those questions remain.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 8.45pm | |
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We are all suspicious. Not least the FBI. What were the possible motivations for placing bombs with childlike timing devices that could not have worked? Of course none of this really matters in the context of the actual events when the mob entered the Capitol building and tried to prevent the formal declaration of the election result. The fuss is all to divert attention and try to suggest there was a “deep state” conspiracy behind the events. Something that ought to be dispelled by what came out of Trump’s mouth in real time.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 24 10.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. It is completely accepted that there are elements within cultural groups who cause a disproportionate amount of problems. It’s those elements that need targeting and to be dealt with. Not those who happen to look like them.m But identity politics often prevents that. I'd have thought the ongoing grooming gang scandal should have made that clear for you. Of course, if it wasn't for 70 years of importing the wrong cultural groups, we wouldn't have to worry about it. This is the wrong topic for this thread. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jan 2024 10.41pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 24 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We are all suspicious. Not least the FBI. What were the possible motivations for placing bombs with childlike timing devices that could not have worked? Of course none of this really matters in the context of the actual events when the mob entered the Capitol building and tried to prevent the formal declaration of the election result. The fuss is all to divert attention and try to suggest there was a “deep state” conspiracy behind the events. Something that ought to be dispelled by what came out of Trump’s mouth in real time. So you seriously believe that the 'deep state' is just a fantasy? When you try to pretend that the law is not being abused to persecute Trump, it really does put all else you say into perspective. I'd imagine that those that wish to prevent Trump from becoming President again will use every resource at their disposal. That usually means using those in high and low places while creating plausible deniability. A 'heart attack' or 'car accident' won't come as a big surprise.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 11.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But identity politics often prevents that. I'd have thought the ongoing grooming gang scandal should have made that clear for you. Of course, if it wasn't for 70 years of importing the wrong cultural groups, we wouldn't have to worry about it. This is the wrong topic for this thread. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jan 2024 10.41pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 11.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So you seriously believe that the 'deep state' is just a fantasy? When you try to pretend that the law is not being abused to persecute Trump, it really does put all else you say into perspective. I'd imagine that those that wish to prevent Trump from becoming President again will use every resource at their disposal. That usually means using those in high and low places while creating plausible deniability. A 'heart attack' or 'car accident' won't come as a big surprise. Of course the “deep state” is a fantasy. It’s a description by those who seek to undermine the state of those within society who try to maintain a semblance of decency and respect that goes beyond the merely legal. Informal contacts between people of goodwill. There is no master plan or organisation determining policy. Just watchful eyes being aware of dangers and to whom to report them. The law is not being used to persecute Trump and I am appalled that anyone here would think that it is. It is what Trump wants his base to think but we have a better handle on reality than that. Trump has brought everything on himself. None of the indictments would have been possible but for his own actions. Those who wish to see Trump fail at any cost almost certainly would prefer these cases not to be happening and for him to be judged solely in the court of public opinion. Right now he is spinning them to his advantage and posing as a martyr. People now see him as a victim and not the scumbag he really is. I too would not be surprised to see something happen to him. I truly hope it doesn’t and he is beaten by arguments and the truth, but in the USA such things regrettably can happen.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jan 24 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So you seriously believe that the 'deep state' is just a fantasy? When you try to pretend that the law is not being abused to persecute Trump, it really does put all else you say into perspective. I'd imagine that those that wish to prevent Trump from becoming President again will use every resource at their disposal. That usually means using those in high and low places while creating plausible deniability. A 'heart attack' or 'car accident' won't come as a big surprise. Biden acts like he's just had both.
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Teddy Eagle 20 Jan 24 4.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. It is completely accepted that there are elements within cultural groups who cause a disproportionate amount of problems. It’s those elements that need targeting and to be dealt with. Not those who happen to look like them.m This is yet another Shangri-La situation. Everybody knows those elements need to be targeted and dealt with but no one has a clue how to do it. These "solutions" are no more helpful than going to a drought stricken area and suggesting they make it rain.
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