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georgenorman 19 Jan 24 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Some politicians have no choice when security concerns intervene. Approval is bestowed by circumstances. It’s impossible for anyone to really lie to themself. Really? You seem to do it rather a lot.
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silvertop Portishead 19 Jan 24 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That’s not what happened. They took a commercial decision that having him as a customer presented more downside than upside but then mishandled the public relations very badly which forced them to retract. It wasn’t his politics. It was him. His public and very divisive image. He is “Marmite” man personified. Too big a risk. Did anyone withdraw their account because he had one? If there was a genuine risk of a run, then I fully understand what they did (but now how they did it). Otherwise, people would be de-banked because they have an unfortunate or divisive personality. It is not the same as being allowed into a restaurant or pub, a bank is an essential utility for anybody. What if Farage was not allowed to open an account with an electricity supplier or mobile provider on the same ground? That there can be any justification for de banking the likes of Farage or Corbyn or Keith Chegwin or the Chuckle Brothers is beyond acceptable.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 2.15pm | |
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What on earth does “Third worldist ideology are very much a minority position” mean? It seems to me to be just an assembly of random words jumbled together to give an appearance of a superior intellect. Maybe this helps:- That though has nothing to do with what follows the jumble. Confused and confusing.
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georgenorman 19 Jan 24 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What on earth does “Third worldist ideology are very much a minority position” mean? It seems to me to be just an assembly of random words jumbled together to give an appearance of a superior intellect. Maybe this helps:- That though has nothing to do with what follows the jumble. Confused and confusing. Well you are the accepted grandmaster in this.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 2.27pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Did anyone withdraw their account because he had one? If there was a genuine risk of a run, then I fully understand what they did (but now how they did it). Otherwise, people would be de-banked because they have an unfortunate or divisive personality. It is not the same as being allowed into a restaurant or pub, a bank is an essential utility for anybody. What if Farage was not allowed to open an account with an electricity supplier or mobile provider on the same ground? That there can be any justification for de banking the likes of Farage or Corbyn or Keith Chegwin or the Chuckle Brothers is beyond acceptable. I have no idea. It was a strategic commercial decision. They would only been able to assess the outcome much later. Farage’s opportunity to get banking services elsewhere was not impacted. Banks are either commercial businesses or they aren’t. They aren’t public utilities. They are free to deal with whoever they wish on whatever grounds they decide, unless they break a discrimination law in the process and when this happened they didn’t. Corbyn I can imagine getting the same treatment. He is another Marmite character. Keith Chegwin or the Chuckle brothers might be annoying but I don’t think in quite the same way.
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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 24 2.46pm | |
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I accept the criticism of bad English, which is always valid if anyone cares for standards. I have corrected the plural back to the correct singular. As for the implied notion that my description is a misapplied understanding of that poster's position. I posit that the 'lady doth protest too much'. It also seems more than a little embarrassing that they need to research phrases to understand what they mean. Perhaps they spent a little too much time devising how to lie to customers as a younger man rather than actually learning anything. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jan 2024 3.13pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 24 6.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no recollection of anyone, me included, describing any ethnicity as “unique” so will needed to be reminded of the context. Ethnicity is a social construct which gets increasingly blurred these days but can still exist uniquely. Categorising anyone simply by physical attributes which have no bearing on their character is one of the biggest problems today. That it is widely done is no excuse. People rightly get upset at sexual or age discrimination. Obese, short or tall people too. So why is it ok to call people black or white? It doesn’t mean anything. It creates division. It’s yesterday’s terminology. A vestige of the days of Empire and the slave trade. Describe them by real differences. Whether they are honest and hard working for instance. Gang members or members of the WI if necessary. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (18 Jan 2024 9.19pm) No, I'd say that, sometimes deliberately, not recognising clear and obvious cultural and behavioural issues and differences between people who also just happen to look a little different is the problem. As usual, your assertion is backwards.
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Stirlingsays 19 Jan 24 6.32pm | |
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There's something quite suspicious around the January 6th pipebombs planted outside both DNC and RNC headquarters and the reaction of security and intelligence services. Recent troubling footage has emerged....and it didn't come out willingly by all accounts. Tucker Carlson reports. [Tweet Link]
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silvertop Portishead 19 Jan 24 6.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no idea. It was a strategic commercial decision. They would only been able to assess the outcome much later. Farage’s opportunity to get banking services elsewhere was not impacted. Banks are either commercial businesses or they aren’t. They aren’t public utilities. They are free to deal with whoever they wish on whatever grounds they decide, unless they break a discrimination law in the process and when this happened they didn’t. Corbyn I can imagine getting the same treatment. He is another Marmite character. Keith Chegwin or the Chuckle brothers might be annoying but I don’t think in quite the same way. So you see banks as a pub analogy, where they can legally refuse anyone, rather than a public utility, who can refuse no-one save those with poor credit history etc.? This I submit sits somewhere in between but much closer to the public utility. Once de-banked, it may effect credit history; you will need to make wholesale alterations to your affairs in order to ensure mortgage, utilities, rent etc. are paid; there is a risk of missed payments and adverse credit events; and there is the general humiliation of being publicly declared persona non grata just because you are a c**t.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.10pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Really? You seem to do it rather a lot. Thanks for that. Coming from someone whose posts are generally so bereft of reality it’s hard to believe that the writer can be serious that made me laugh out loud.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.18pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
So you see banks as a pub analogy, where they can legally refuse anyone, rather than a public utility, who can refuse no-one save those with poor credit history etc.? This I submit sits somewhere in between but much closer to the public utility. Once de-banked, it may effect credit history; you will need to make wholesale alterations to your affairs in order to ensure mortgage, utilities, rent etc. are paid; there is a risk of missed payments and adverse credit events; and there is the general humiliation of being publicly declared persona non grata just because you are a c**t. If my understanding is correct he wasn’t even “de-banked”! He was advised he no longer qualified for their “elite”:account with Coutts but offered one with their mainstream bank. The one we all use. So if you want a pub analogy more like asking a smoker to go to a designated area where he won’t offend other smokers. Not throwing them out.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jan 24 7.34pm | |
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There remains a lot of speculation about who planted the pipe bombs and why but the truth is it remains just speculation. The FBI are still asking for information. So declaring that “government officials”eem to have been involved is as silly as declaring that Marjorie Taylor Greene was identified as the suspect. We don’t know but there is a big reward on offer for anyone who does.
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