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rossboss29 Portsmouth 19 Jul 22 9.38am
Originally posted by Spiderman I would be very surprised if we signed Richards and still went for AWB, given we extended Clyne. Any news on Colvill or another midfielder? Chris Richards is a centre back who can play as right back. Omar Richards is a right back Munich just sold to Forest. I stand corrected. Edited by rossboss29 (19 Jul 2022 5.02pm)
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rossboss29

Portsmouth 19 Jul 22 9.38am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I would be very surprised if we signed Richards and still went for AWB, given we extended Clyne.
Any news on Colvill or another midfielder?

Chris Richards is a centre back who can play as right back.

Omar Richards is a right back Munich just sold to Forest.

I stand corrected.

Edited by rossboss29 (19 Jul 2022 5.02pm)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jul 22 10.30am
Originally posted by rossboss29 Chris Richards is a centre back who can play as right back. Omar Richards is a right back Munich just sold to Forest. My understanding is that Omar Richards is an attack-minded left-back who loves getting forward and delivering crosses.A good athlete and a good defender in 1 v 1 situations.I am told that he played as a No 10 coming through in the Fulham academy.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jul 22 10.30am

Originally posted by rossboss29

Chris Richards is a centre back who can play as right back.

Omar Richards is a right back Munich just sold to Forest.

My understanding is that Omar Richards is an attack-minded left-back who loves getting forward and delivering crosses.A good athlete and a good defender in 1 v 1 situations.I am told that he played as a No 10 coming through in the Fulham academy.

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Croydon-Trucker 19 Jul 22 10.44am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild AWB got a lot of stick last season, but the whole United defence was in disarray and he is not a leader. Alongside a more organised defence he would quickly get back to his best, but I'm just not sure Palace are in a place where they are ready to pay £20m for a full-back yet, but who knows. Personally I think AWB is better suited to a family club like ours where people actually care more about each other than their Instagram accounts. Also, AWB is as good as any of our current full-backs in terms of attacking play, even if he is not good enough going forward for a team like United. Very good post .
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild

AWB got a lot of stick last season, but the whole United defence was in disarray and he is not a leader. Alongside a more organised defence he would quickly get back to his best, but I'm just not sure Palace are in a place where they are ready to pay £20m for a full-back yet, but who knows. Personally I think AWB is better suited to a family club like ours where people actually care more about each other than their Instagram accounts. Also, AWB is as good as any of our current full-backs in terms of attacking play, even if he is not good enough going forward for a team like United.

Very good post .

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CrazyBadger Ware 19 Jul 22 10.55am
The word 'Obligation' worrys me somewhat; Suggests it would be a done deal. Surely the 'Option' to buy would be a wiser one. If he doesn't fit in, and plays hardly any games, are we still obligted To buy at 20m? "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 19 Jul 22 10.55am

The word 'Obligation' worrys me somewhat; Suggests it would be a done deal. Surely the 'Option' to buy would be a wiser one.

If he doesn't fit in, and plays hardly any games, are we still obligted To buy at 20m?

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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sotac464 Berkshire 19 Jul 22 12.18pm
I have it on good authority that AWB is not coming back to Palace. My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018
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Berkshire 19 Jul 22 12.18pm

I have it on good authority that AWB is not coming back to Palace.

My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

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eritheagle Erith 19 Jul 22 12.27pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger The word 'Obligation' worrys me somewhat; Suggests it would be a done deal. Surely the 'Option' to buy would be a wiser one. If he doesn't fit in, and plays hardly any games, are we still obligted To buy at 20m? We may really want him now but with FFP and having some other targets may not be able to splash £20m on him this summer. Therefore Man U may be doing us a favour by kinda deferring payment til next year.
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Erith 19 Jul 22 12.27pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

The word 'Obligation' worrys me somewhat; Suggests it would be a done deal. Surely the 'Option' to buy would be a wiser one.

If he doesn't fit in, and plays hardly any games, are we still obligted To buy at 20m?

We may really want him now but with FFP and having some other targets may not be able to splash £20m on him this summer. Therefore Man U may be doing us a favour by kinda deferring payment til next year.

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rollercoaster Cornwall 19 Jul 22 12.36pm
Are we really saying CPFC is now too good for AWB? If that is the case we have come a long way in the short time since he started for us. Is he a better full back than a declining Joel Ward? I think so and I think he would be an asset to the team albeit not a perfect fit. A year long loan with an option to buy would surely be a really good deal for both clubs.
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rollercoaster

Cornwall 19 Jul 22 12.36pm

Are we really saying CPFC is now too good for AWB? If that is the case we have come a long way in the short time since he started for us.
Is he a better full back than a declining Joel Ward? I think so and I think he would be an asset to the team albeit not a perfect fit. A year long loan with an option to buy would surely be a really good deal for both clubs.

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dazza Wallington 20 Jul 22 12.53pm
Originally posted by dazza Chris Richard’s from Bayern is a done deal £10m plus add-ons 5yr deal. AWB could be set for loan deal to Palace with obligation to buy next year for £20m As I posted the other day.
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dazza

Wallington 20 Jul 22 12.53pm

Originally posted by dazza

Chris Richard’s from Bayern is a done deal £10m plus add-ons 5yr deal.

AWB could be set for loan deal to Palace with obligation to buy next year for £20m

As I posted the other day.

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Elwissthebest Marlborough 20 Jul 22 1.04pm
Originally posted by dazza As I posted the other day. Worth getting excited about, then. Dazza is a very reliable source.
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Marlborough 20 Jul 22 1.04pm

Originally posted by dazza

As I posted the other day.

Worth getting excited about, then. Dazza is a very reliable source.

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Fatherken 20 Jul 22 2.17pm
What concerns me is that we keep buying defenders and midfield players . It looks like to me we will be playing the ball a lot at the back and taking an age to get it up to the forwards . It is no good having 80 % of the game and losing 1-0 . I think we are losing the idea of the game for showy football . The idea of the game is to put the ball into the oppositions net more times than they put it in ours . We need to buy a forward who will make that happen , as we won't play our best forward .
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20 Jul 22 2.17pm

What concerns me is that we keep buying defenders and midfield players .
It looks like to me we will be playing the ball a lot at the back and taking an age to get it up to the forwards .
It is no good having 80 % of the game and losing 1-0 .
I think we are losing the idea of the game for showy football .
The idea of the game is to put the ball into the oppositions net more times than they put it in ours .
We need to buy a forward who will make that happen , as we won't play our best forward .

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ambrose7 Croydon 20 Jul 22 2.52pm
Originally posted by Fatherken What concerns me is that we keep buying defenders and midfield players . It looks like to me we will be playing the ball a lot at the back and taking an age to get it up to the forwards . It is no good having 80 % of the game and losing 1-0 . I think we are losing the idea of the game for showy football . The idea of the game is to put the ball into the oppositions net more times than they put it in ours . We need to buy a forward who will make that happen , as we won't play our best forward . It isn't, but I can't think when that happened at all last season? Arguably Leeds away but frankly we were poor in that. Could you please name one striker that guarantees more Premier League goals than Mateta who could be willing to join a club like CPFC and who is available for something less than ~£40m? To help, Mateta's goals per 90 minutes last season is here - [Link] To save looking, he's 24th. The only players higher than him who are not at a top 6 club are Wissa (Brentford), Zaha (Palace), Cornet (Burnley) and Maddison (Leicester). Feel free to include strikers already signed by other Premier League clubs this summer - I can't see anyone though. If you can't name someone, then let's get behind Mateta, Edouard and Benteke, recognise that last year was our joint 2nd highest number of goals scored of this current PL spell, and recognise that everyone thinks Zaha, Eze and Olise are a good supporting cast? I think everyone would agree that the two players we've spent money on - Doucoure and (likely) Richards - are in positions we were critically short of numbers. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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ambrose7

Croydon 20 Jul 22 2.52pm

Originally posted by Fatherken

What concerns me is that we keep buying defenders and midfield players .
It looks like to me we will be playing the ball a lot at the back and taking an age to get it up to the forwards .
It is no good having 80 % of the game and losing 1-0 .
I think we are losing the idea of the game for showy football .
The idea of the game is to put the ball into the oppositions net more times than they put it in ours .
We need to buy a forward who will make that happen , as we won't play our best forward .

It isn't, but I can't think when that happened at all last season? Arguably Leeds away but frankly we were poor in that.

Could you please name one striker that guarantees more Premier League goals than Mateta who could be willing to join a club like CPFC and who is available for something less than ~£40m?

To help, Mateta's goals per 90 minutes last season is here - [Link] To save looking, he's 24th. The only players higher than him who are not at a top 6 club are Wissa (Brentford), Zaha (Palace), Cornet (Burnley) and Maddison (Leicester).

Feel free to include strikers already signed by other Premier League clubs this summer - I can't see anyone though.

If you can't name someone, then let's get behind Mateta, Edouard and Benteke, recognise that last year was our joint 2nd highest number of goals scored of this current PL spell, and recognise that everyone thinks Zaha, Eze and Olise are a good supporting cast?

I think everyone would agree that the two players we've spent money on - Doucoure and (likely) Richards - are in positions we were critically short of numbers.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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CrazyBadger Ware 20 Jul 22 3.00pm
Originally posted by Fatherken What concerns me is that we keep buying defenders and midfield players . It looks like to me we will be playing the ball a lot at the back and taking an age to get it up to the forwards . It is no good having 80 % of the game and losing 1-0 . I think we are losing the idea of the game for showy football . The idea of the game is to put the ball into the oppositions net more times than they put it in ours . We need to buy a forward who will make that happen , as we won't play our best forward . I hate nothing more than possession for Possessions sake. Even Barca's brand of possession football made for a boring spectacle of a game. At least every now and then something amazing would happen then they'd score. but we have to have a clear picture and plan of what we're trying To achieve, and the problem areas we have. Midfield is priority in this window. strikers, not so much. Just because we're buying defenders and midfielders doesn't mean that it'll be slow buildup. the Idea is to bring in The right players to transition through the positions, and create a scoring opportunity. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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CrazyBadger

Ware 20 Jul 22 3.00pm

Originally posted by Fatherken

I hate nothing more than possession for Possessions sake. Even Barca's brand of possession football made for a boring spectacle of a game. At least every now and then something amazing would happen then they'd score.

but we have to have a clear picture and plan of what we're trying To achieve, and the problem areas we have. Midfield is priority in this window. strikers, not so much. Just because we're buying defenders and midfielders doesn't mean that it'll be slow buildup. the Idea is to bring in The right players to transition through the positions, and create a scoring opportunity.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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