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  georgenorman  02 Aug 24 4.52pm |
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Women shouldn't box - no one should really.
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| eaglesdare 02 Aug 24 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
She was born a woman, has been boxing women for the entirety of her career - she’s been beaten 9 times by other women. It’s amazing someone who has had 50-odd fights without much controversy and without being especially successful, is now such a danger to women and women’s sport. There are discussions to be had around how sporting bodies deal with these cases where people have sexual conditions, such as Caster Semenya previously, but people like yourself have little interest in detailed conversation and prefer to just lie and misrepresent. That people allow themselves to be so easily engineered to outrage should lead to some self reflection, but I won’t be holding my breath.
Hence the boxer is a Man. Edited by eaglesdare (02 Aug 2024 5.04pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 02 Aug 24 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Hence the boxer is a Man. Edited by eaglesdare (02 Aug 2024 5.04pm) That’s factually untrue.
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| eaglesdare 02 Aug 24 5.20pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
That’s factually untrue. Making up your own science now then? Must not fit your narrative.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Aug 24 5.22pm |
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I read that the different classification/ requirements have varied in the boxing between this Olympics and previous ones was because of some kind of corruption in the boxing governing body. Is that correct? Who'd have ever thought that fights might be fixed? The mind boggles. I guess you can't blame these boxers for fighting by the rules. I guess the rules have to be changed and perhaps standardised. It won't be a pretty debate.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 02 Aug 24 5.30pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Making up your own science now then? Must not fit your narrative. No, that’s exactly what you’re doing - just spend 5 minutes of your time on Google and you can find countless contributions to explain it.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Aug 24 5.33pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
No, that’s exactly what you’re doing - just spend 5 minutes of your time on Google and you can find countless contributions to explain it. Could just ask Starmer.
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| eaglesdare 02 Aug 24 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
No, that’s exactly what you’re doing - just spend 5 minutes of your time on Google and you can find countless contributions to explain it. The science is that Men have XY chromosomes and Women have XX chromosomes. It's something we all learned in school. Unless you were not paying attention that day?
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| Stirlingsays 02 Aug 24 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
No, that’s exactly what you’re doing - just spend 5 minutes of your time on Google and you can find countless contributions to explain it. Google filters its results ideologically. Outside of progressive western institutions you will find the majority of the world thinks what you are saying here is insane. If you even go back twenty years, those same institutions wouldn't agree with you. They have radically changed and that's not science, it's the ideology of those employed. What you claim is very very recent and is political. Lot of them also say race isn't real either, despite the mountain of evidence for it....just go into a sickle cell unit. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2024 5.41pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 02 Aug 24 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
The science is that Men have XY chromosomes and Women have XX chromosomes. It's something we all learned in school. Unless you were not paying attention that day?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Aug 24 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I know you’re in your little safe space on here but in the real world there is nothing odd about my view. If you had the bottle to communicate outside of your little bubble you might realise that. Funny enough, whatever guesses you want to make about her genitalia are completely meaningless. I don’t tend to go round trying to guess what people’s genitalia look like, but each to their own like. We don’t have to wonder why she has high testosterone: she has a medical condition. She also has a cervix, which in the previous manufactured version of this debate, was the criteria people liked for what defines a woman. Apparently that no longer applies as you are told to be outraged all over again. She has had 50+ fights and as far as I’m aware has not caused any safety concerns or serious injury to opponents. Nor does she have a particularly impressive record. So any suggestion this is ruining the sport or the safety of the other participants doesn’t seem very well supported in reality, not that that matters anymore. She has a biological unfair advantage. The fact she might be a crap boxer is secondary. If she wasn't eligible for one competition, then ask yourself why she was for the Olympics. Let me answer for you. It is about loony identity politics trumping common sense. It is hiding behind technicalities. What I wonder will you say if a female boxer is killed or seriously injured by a transgender or someone with similar advantages? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (02 Aug 2024 5.45pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 02 Aug 24 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Google filters its results ideologically. Outside of progressive western institutions you will find the majority of the world thinks what you are saying here is insane. If you even go back twenty years, those same institutions wouldn't agree with you. They have radically changed and that's not science, it's the ideology of those employed. What you claim is very very recent and is political. Lot of them also say race isn't real either, despite the mountain of evidence for it....just go into a sickle cell unit. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2024 5.41pm) “Swyer syndrome was first described in the medical literature by Dr. Swyer in 1955.”
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