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Spiderman Horsham 25 Nov 21 3.49pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Nope, their second language is English, that's why they head for the UK. Meanwhile the French take in far more than the UK. In fact the UK is ranked 14th in Europe for the intake of these unfortunate people. "When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita." [Link] As a matter of interest, how do you know their second language is English? Surely that would depend on the nationalities we are talking about. I think you would be very surprised as to the nationalities of some who arrive. Before you put me down, my wife travels to the South Coast most shifts to assist with the processing of arrivals so I do know quite a bit about this, not just what I gleen from media outlets Edited by Spiderman (25 Nov 2021 3.52pm) Edited by Spiderman (25 Nov 2021 3.52pm)
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Horsham 25 Nov 21 3.49pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

Nope, their second language is English, that's why they head for the UK. Meanwhile the French take in far more than the UK. In fact the UK is ranked 14th in Europe for the intake of these unfortunate people.

"When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita."

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As a matter of interest, how do you know their second language is English? Surely that would depend on the nationalities we are talking about. I think you would be very surprised as to the nationalities of some who arrive. Before you put me down, my wife travels to the South Coast most shifts to assist with the processing of arrivals so I do know quite a bit about this, not just what I gleen from media outlets

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Nov 21 3.57pm
Whilst the Channel Crossing migrants are mentioned daily on the news, thankfully not only when disaster strikes, asylum seekers are still arriving daily at airports. Gatwick are receiving, on average, 20-30 Hondurans daily claiming asylum. They travel via Madrid, surely as Spanish speakers this would be the obvious choice of destination? None speak English and have all had their travel arranged through “agents” ( smugglers/ organised crime rings)
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Whilst the Channel Crossing migrants are mentioned daily on the news, thankfully not only when disaster strikes, asylum seekers are still arriving daily at airports. Gatwick are receiving, on average, 20-30 Hondurans daily claiming asylum. They travel via Madrid, surely as Spanish speakers this would be the obvious choice of destination? None speak English and have all had their travel arranged through “agents” ( smugglers/ organised crime rings)

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chris123 hove actually 25 Nov 21 4.01pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin A rep from one of the charities said they were horrified to see the French authorities watch the boat leave! It is our problem as well though - it is a Europe wide issue which needs to be solved somewhow. Immigrants coming to our shores is nothing new and we should do our bit but this way of travel is lethal and at the same time these poor people (most of the time) are also paying a ton of money to unscrupulous criminal gangs in the first instance. It is all so sad but the French appear to be helping these poor people try and reach the UK and this is plain wrong. Reuters filmed French police watching a dingy with 40 onboard, including children, yesterday just outside Calais. So not sure what help the police needed, but the evidence they're doing little as it's continuing today.
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hove actually 25 Nov 21 4.01pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

A rep from one of the charities said they were horrified to see the French authorities watch the boat leave!
It is our problem as well though - it is a Europe wide issue which needs to be solved somewhow.
Immigrants coming to our shores is nothing new and we should do our bit but this way of travel is lethal and at the same time these poor people (most of the time) are also paying a ton of money to unscrupulous criminal gangs in the first instance.
It is all so sad but the French appear to be helping these poor people try and reach the UK and this is plain wrong.

Reuters filmed French police watching a dingy with 40 onboard, including children, yesterday just outside Calais. So not sure what help the police needed, but the evidence they're doing little as it's continuing today.

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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Nov 21 4.11pm
All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up.
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Croydon 25 Nov 21 4.11pm

All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up.

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Orange1290 25 Nov 21 4.37pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up. Correct and the fact that France takes in and settles far, far more than the UK makes it even more of a no brainer in moral terms. Unfortunately the brexit mantra of chest beating and attempting to give the UK a 'bully boy' image by the current 'government' has caused the death of women, children and even very sadly a pregnant woman. Utterly shameful and in full view of the rest of the world. Pro China, EU & Palestine
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25 Nov 21 4.37pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up.

Correct and the fact that France takes in and settles far, far more than the UK makes it even more of a no brainer in moral terms. Unfortunately the brexit mantra of chest beating and attempting to give the UK a 'bully boy' image by the current 'government' has caused the death of women, children and even very sadly a pregnant woman. Utterly shameful and in full view of the rest of the world.

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Nov 21 4.45pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up. Without knowing who they are? Or does that not matter? I said before, we basically did what you are suggesting when Sangatte was closing ( we gave the French financial assistance then, by the way). The French failed to process properly those who remained so they just moved further along the coast. So this is a never ending cycle, which, whether people like it or not, the French have to take some of the blame/responsibility.
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Horsham 25 Nov 21 4.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

All the UK has to do, to stop this, is simply go and pick them up.

Without knowing who they are? Or does that not matter? I said before, we basically did what you are suggesting when Sangatte was closing ( we gave the French financial assistance then, by the way). The French failed to process properly those who remained so they just moved further along the coast.
So this is a never ending cycle, which, whether people like it or not, the French have to take some of the blame/responsibility.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Nov 21 4.49pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Correct and the fact that France takes in and settles far, far more than the UK makes it even more of a no brainer in moral terms. Unfortunately the brexit mantra of chest beating and attempting to give the UK a 'bully boy' image by the current 'government' has caused the death of women, children and even very sadly a pregnant woman. Utterly shameful and in full view of the rest of the world. What a lot of crap. The only people who have caused the deaths are those that foolishly choose dangerous voyages to Britain and the scum that facilitate them. What is shameful is your use of human tragedy to push your anti British agenda.
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Originally posted by Orange1290

What a lot of crap.

The only people who have caused the deaths are those that foolishly choose dangerous voyages to Britain and the scum that facilitate them.

What is shameful is your use of human tragedy to push your anti British agenda.

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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Nov 21 5.11pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Without knowing who they are? Or does that not matter? I said before, we basically did what you are suggesting when Sangatte was closing ( we gave the French financial assistance then, by the way). The French failed to process properly those who remained so they just moved further along the coast. So this is a never ending cycle, which, whether people like it or not, the French have to take some of the blame/responsibility. Yes they do have to share some of the blame and responsibility, but its not feasible to cover 100's of miles of coastline with police and patrols, as we have seen disastrously yesterday. Man's inhumanity unfortunately always falls on those least able to defend themselves, we walk on by and do nothing.
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Croydon 25 Nov 21 5.11pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes they do have to share some of the blame and responsibility, but its not feasible to cover 100's of miles of coastline with police and patrols, as we have seen disastrously yesterday.

Man's inhumanity unfortunately always falls on those least able to defend themselves, we walk on by and do nothing.

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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 25 Nov 21 5.19pm
Originally posted by chris123 Reuters filmed French police watching a dingy with 40 onboard, including children, yesterday just outside Calais. So not sure what help the police needed, but the evidence they're doing little as it's continuing today. what are the 2 police officers really supposed to do, you cant stop people if they want to risk the crossing, are we expecting the french police to shoot them? Sometimes I set out for Ludlow Sometimes I end up in Chepstow
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Originally posted by chris123

what are the 2 police officers really supposed to do, you cant stop people if they want to risk the crossing, are we expecting the french police to shoot them?

Sometimes I set out for Ludlow
Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Nov 21 5.22pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Nope, their second language is English, that's why they head for the UK. Meanwhile the French take in far more than the UK. In fact the UK is ranked 14th in Europe for the intake of these unfortunate people. "When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita." [Link] Edited by Spiderman (25 Nov 2021 5.23pm)
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Horsham 25 Nov 21 5.22pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

"When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita."

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Edited by Spiderman (25 Nov 2021 5.23pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 25 Nov 21 5.26pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 Nope, their second language is English, that's why they head for the UK. Meanwhile the French take in far more than the UK. In fact the UK is ranked 14th in Europe for the intake of these unfortunate people. "When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita." [Link] Says the bloke who has moved to a country which is 24th on the list
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Horsham 25 Nov 21 5.26pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

"When compared with EU countries, the UK ranked 14th out of the individual countries in terms of the number of asylum applications per capita."

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Says the bloke who has moved to a country which is 24th on the list

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chris123 hove actually 25 Nov 21 5.27pm
Originally posted by thegreatlardino what are the 2 police officers really supposed to do, you cant stop people if they want to risk the crossing, are we expecting the french police to shoot them? Reuters didn't say how many police were in situ.
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hove actually 25 Nov 21 5.27pm

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

what are the 2 police officers really supposed to do, you cant stop people if they want to risk the crossing, are we expecting the french police to shoot them?

Reuters didn't say how many police were in situ.

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