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 Brinscalleagle2  Brinscall 22 May 21 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Can’t players sign agreements with new clubs after January in their final contract year? I’m not sure many of ours would get great offers so they might hang on to see what we’ll offer, but I seem to remember reading this. Probably correct but not many of them are sought after or I guess we would have tied them up earlier. All will be revealed in the coming weeks . Patience is a virtue. COYP
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taylors lovechild  22 May 21 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Can’t players sign agreements with new clubs after January in their final contract year? I’m not sure many of ours would get great offers so they might hang on to see what we’ll offer, but I seem to remember reading this. I think only with overseas clubs.
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| Painter Croydon 22 May 21 4.01pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
With you on this but in addition can we have Brentford's scouting team as well, they found Watkins, Benrahma and Ivan Toney amongst others ... Its far easier to develope players in the Championship than the Premier. Brentford model wouldnt work in the Premier, where players are expected ti hit the ground running.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 May 21 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Personally I think our next Manager will be Dyche. I have no inside knowledge and/or insight to come to that conclusion. But it just seems logical to me - if rumors are true there’s been a number of contacts and conversations in the past - so if you except that as being true Parish obviously rates him. After the FDB debacle I just can’t see Parish taking another “flyer” at an unproven - Premiership Manager - far too much at stake. Dyche is probably the nearest thing to a younger Hodgson - used to operating on a limited budget and has a proven track record of maintaining Premiership status. In Parish we trust and time will tell - think all will be revealed next week. COYP Yes, this is what I expect Parish to do. If the club was in a better position we might go for a younger up and coming manager, but then we weren’t financially hamstrung years ago and Parish still chose proven managers pre FDB. Maybe that was partly down to when they were hired and the league position at the time. FDB was hired without financial issues, although Parish surely knew they were in the post, but why did parish, or just FDB, go into full revolution mode knowing they had relatively little left to spend, and even less, or nothing, after signing Sakho. I don’t see Parish going down this route again. Dyche is known to play long balls behind full backs and possibly longer grass. But we did see Burnley pass the ball around and dominate us at Selhurst maybe last season. I think it was vs the Allardyce side when Burnley scored first and played like a pub team whacking it into touch on the halfway line whenever we got near their goal at the Holmesdale end.
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| TheBigToePunt 22 May 21 4.08pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Can’t players sign agreements with new clubs after January in their final contract year? I’m not sure many of ours would get great offers so they might hang on to see what we’ll offer, but I seem to remember reading this. Yes they can, if the club is not in the same league as us. As Parish has said before though, part of being a premier league club is that you give slightly above average players such frightening wages that even if you are happy to release them for free they can't find anyone to match their salary. I'd think most of our out of contract lads have found that the market doesn't value them as highly as the contracts we gave them. I'd also think Parish knew as much, hence his relative comfort in letting contracts run down.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 May 21 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Yes they can, if the club is not in the same league as us. As Parish has said before though, part of being a premier league club is that you give slightly above average players such frightening wages that even if you are happy to release them for free they can't find anyone to match their salary. I'd think most of our out of contract lads have found that the market doesn't value them as highly as the contracts we gave them. I'd also think Parish knew as much, hence his relative comfort in letting contracts run down. And Benteke producing like he hasn’t done in years. Maybe some have realised they could start earning £1-£2mil a year less in gross salary.
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| TheBigToePunt 22 May 21 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
And Benteke producing like he hasn’t done in years. Maybe some have realised they could start earning £1-£2mil a year less in gross salary. Whilst PVA has been fecking awful. He's a coward at the best of times, but he literally couldn't do less than he has in the second half of this season, making me wonder if he's worried about getting injured. Beneteke on the other hand is so up for it he took a swing at an Arsenal player the other day. I've waited years for him to act like he gives a f***, and then he turns into some mad combination of division 2 Wright and Bright circa 1988. It could all be a coincidence of course, but yeah, hard not to conclude that the contract position is relevant to performance levels one way or the other.
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jeeagles  22 May 21 5.22pm |
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Isn't it strange how clubs spend millions on getting scouting the best youngsters, getting the best physios, dieticians, sports scientists from the best universities, arranging the best training regimes. All in the slim likelihood that one of those players gets a chance at the first team. Then managers go off, do a 5 minute badge with the FA, then they are off to spearhead a multimillion pound business. Barcelona seem to be the only club that have trained up a manager using their youth team then had faith to make them first team manager. Look how well that turned out.
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| Spiderman Horsham 22 May 21 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Isn't it strange how clubs spend millions on getting scouting the best youngsters, getting the best physios, dieticians, sports scientists from the best universities, arranging the best training regimes. All in the slim likelihood that one of those players gets a chance at the first team. Then managers go off, do a 5 minute badge with the FA, then they are off to spearhead a multimillion pound business. Barcelona seem to be the only club that have trained up a manager using their youth team then had faith to make them first team manager. Look how well that turned out. I wish all clubs paid a fortune for scouts! My son is working for an Icelandic team and Danish team, both unpaid , as he is trying to build up a CV. Unfortunately hasn’t quite got the CV for English team’s yet
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 22 May 21 9.57pm |
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There was a story that Howe could not officially accept the Celtic job until Bournemouth's promotion fate was decided. If that is true then should be a Howe announcement very soon.
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| manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 22 May 21 10.51pm |
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There is an article in Football now, Homepage that there is disagreement between Parish and the Americans as to who they want as manager. Parish wants Dyche and the American want Cooper. Yes take that story with a pinch of salt, but on the other hand this is Palace you are talking about, nothing straight forward nothing easy and really this falls inline with our transfer dealings. Edited by manwitheagletattoo (22 May 2021 10.58pm)
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 23 May 21 12.55am |
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I am not sure we are going to attract applicants who have " set the world alight". But, it's a very well paid job for someone, especially if they keep us up as I hope the contract is suitably incentivised to survival. Below supposed managers annual/weekly wage. Maybe totally wrong but probably ballpark right. Roy Hodgson £4.5 million £93,750 Crystal Palace 2021 Scott Parker £3.5 million £73,000 Fulham 2023 David Moyes £3 million £62,500 West Ham 2021 Steve Bruce £2.75 million £57,000 Newcastle United 2022 Nuno Espírito Santo (new contract deal) £4 million £85,000 Wolves 2023 Sean Dyche £2.4 million £50,000 Burnley 2022 Dean Smith £1.5 million £31,250 Aston Villa 2023 Graham Potter £1 million £21,000 Brighton 2024 Ralph Hasenhüttl £1 million £21,000 Southampton 2024 Slaven Bilić £850,000 £17,700 West Bromwich 2021 Chris Wilder £675,000 £14,000 Sheffield United 202 Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo
There is an article in Football now, Homepage that there is disagreement between Parish and the Americans as to who they want as manager. Parish wants Dyche and the American want Cooper. Yes take that story with a pinch of salt, but on the other hand this is Palace you are talking about, nothing straight forward nothing easy and really this falls inline with our transfer dealings. Edited by manwitheagletattoo (22 May 2021 10.58pm)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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