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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 20 12.13am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Different argument to what happened at Millwall. Do you support them booing? That's the bottom line. Quick sand giving way? I know why they booed. The goings on over the summer. I’ve said this many times. Did they boo tonight? No. Do they boo during any ‘kick it out’ displays? No. Do they do monkey chants at players? No. Does this happen at West Ham, Colchester, Brentford or Reading? No as well. are you beginning to get it yet? Oh I forgot, you probably have very little allegiance and affinity with your country and it’s history, pride and freedom anyway.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 12.19am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You’ve no answer. So it’s about respect now. Next week it’ll be about something else I expect. You’d be funny if you weren’t trying to be serious. I actually would prefer to see some proper meaningful changes and you’re talking about respect for footballers where 99.999% of the time they are. Jesus Christ I don’t even think you know what and why you’re arguing now. Not at all. I am not going to attempt to defend actions I know little background about. They have nothing whatsoever to do with what happened at Millwall. Of course booing players who are making a sincere gesture is showing disrespect. You don't have to agree with the gesture to respect those who do. It's mindless. Trying to show a non-existent link to a political movement as an excuse to justify the disrespect is pretty pathetic. Trying to divert onto whether an alternative gesture would be more suitable might produce a useful side discussion but isn't the major talking point. The disrespect, and what lay behind it, is.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 12.25am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Quick sand giving way? I know why they booed. The goings on over the summer. I’ve said this many times. Did they boo tonight? No. Do they boo during any ‘kick it out’ displays? No. Do they do monkey chants at players? No. Does this happen at West Ham, Colchester, Brentford or Reading? No as well. are you beginning to get it yet? Oh I forgot, you probably have very little allegiance and affinity with your country and it’s history, pride and freedom anyway. Whatever "going-ons" you don't like doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. Were you, by any chance, ever a member of the National Front? Your whole political approach seems to have an echo of them.
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Teddy Eagle 09 Dec 20 12.29am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
About this yes. When so many of their fellow players, whilst wealthy, still face discrimination they are going to be much more aware than the average person. They wouldn't take a lot of persuasion that making a stand across the world of football was a good thing. There are about twenty people on this thread with differences of opinion but hundreds of footballers from all over the world are in complete agreement?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 20 12.31am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all. I am not going to attempt to defend actions I know little background about. They have nothing whatsoever to do with what happened at Millwall. Of course booing players who are making a sincere gesture is showing disrespect. You don't have to agree with the gesture to respect those who do. It's mindless. Trying to show a non-existent link to a political movement as an excuse to justify the disrespect is pretty pathetic. Trying to divert onto whether an alternative gesture would be more suitable might produce a useful side discussion but isn't the major talking point. The disrespect, and what lay behind it, is. This feeling has been brewing up for months since last season was finished after the riots. Sincere in some eyes, tainted in disrespect to the nation in others. See the paradox? And yes, alternatives have already happened and passed peacefully. Millwall held their tongues when those stupid qpr players tried to make it more divisive, because the black panther salute isn’t harmonious is it?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 20 12.36am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whatever "going-ons" you don't like doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. Were you, by any chance, ever a member of the National Front? Your whole political approach seems to have an echo of them. You don’t know my sexual and dating history lol. I would like to see fair changes made in society that bring fairness to minorities, not these empty, divisive and provocative displays. Seems like you’re losing, or you just don’t like being pressed too much.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Dec 20 12.49am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whatever "going-ons" you don't like doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. Were you, by any chance, ever a member of the National Front? Your whole political approach seems to have an echo of them. By your logic the whole readership of The Telegraph and Daily Mail are former members of the National Front. Anyone who tutted at the demands for the police to kneel and the subservient police must of course be racist former National Front members through your sanctimonious Truro lenses. I’ve heard people that would distance themselves from saying anything like we have a two tier policing system since then say that after the lockdown protests that is exactly what we have. Yes, respectable middle class people eventually see the policing instructed via politics. You frankly disgust me more as time goes on. Not only do you excuse such behaviour from your safe haven but you accuse others of being members of racist organisations because they dare to speak out about it. But that you all over isn’t it? Control of speech, thought and politics. Pretty shameful. Have a day off.
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dannyboy1978 09 Dec 20 7.48am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
There are about twenty people on this thread with differences of opinion but hundreds of footballers from all over the world are in complete agreement? More like complying, I wouldn't want aggravation either if I'm honest and probably go with the flow. But ide have my views!
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dannyboy1978 09 Dec 20 7.55am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You don’t know my sexual and dating history lol. I would like to see fair changes made in society that bring fairness to minorities, not these empty, divisive and provocative displays. Seems like you’re losing, or you just don’t like being pressed too much. Ide like to see minorities behaving their selves better then my opinion might change. Stabbing black Remember they are minorities which is the key fact.
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Teddy Eagle 09 Dec 20 8.09am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
More like complying, I wouldn't want aggravation either if I'm honest and probably go with the flow. But ide have my views! I think you’re right.
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W12 09 Dec 20 8.31am | |
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The fact that a lot of people seem to think "taking the knee" is a normal and reasonable thing to do just shows how cucked our culture has become. "you don't just need to be non-racist, you need to be anti-racist" It's the white liberals that perpetuate this toxic morality that deserve contempt though. These people can just go and f*** themselves. Race relation will continue to nosedive under the current liberal regime especially as it begins to crumble which it inevitably will. Edited by W12 (09 Dec 2020 8.56am)
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baldeagle73 Leamington spa 09 Dec 20 8.54am | |
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The BLM movement has probably set back community’s cohesion and equality more than any right wing movement there equally as ignorant and facist as the EDL two sides of the same coin both should be treated with the contempt that they deserve
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