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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 10.42am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman God knows why that bloke in the audience kept bellowing. It's inaudible on the tv. Should be 3 strikes and out, not about 12 rants. The audience should've grouped up on him and told him to shut up. Yep, the laughing and gaffawing at Oborne when he said the mail was an honourable paper was a lot louder in the studio than it came across.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 10.42am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

God knows why that bloke in the audience kept bellowing. It's inaudible on the tv. Should be 3 strikes and out, not about 12 rants. The audience should've grouped up on him and told him to shut up.

Yep, the laughing and gaffawing at Oborne when he said the mail was an honourable paper was a lot louder in the studio than it came across.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 10.49am
[Link] Bloody Marxists helping people.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 10.49am

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Bloody Marxists helping people.

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Username Horsham 23 Jun 17 11.47am
Originally posted by susmik I have to agree with you on this one as all Nick has to do is do his homework on the facts I put and dates and timings and years and then make an informed answer. Of course MP's have changed since then but at the time of the things I listed it was Labour who did all the running and cock ups. That list is flat out bollocks mate. Not even going to bother going through the whole list but for starters: Originally posted by susmik 8 The decision to create ALMO organisation such as the KCTMO was made under the Right To Manage legislation passed in 2002 as part of the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act. 9 This was put in place to give leaseholders and tenants a greater say and the ability to self manage, which in some circumstances has clearly proven to be flawed. 10 Which Govt was in a charge when this law was passed? It was Labour. That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website: [Link] "In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation." Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire. Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am) Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 23 Jun 17 11.47am

Originally posted by susmik

I have to agree with you on this one as all Nick has to do is do his homework on the facts I put and dates and timings and years and then make an informed answer. Of course MP's have changed since then but at the time of the things I listed it was Labour who did all the running and cock ups.

That list is flat out bollocks mate. Not even going to bother going through the whole list but for starters:

Originally posted by susmik

8 The decision to create ALMO organisation such as the KCTMO was made under the Right To Manage legislation passed in 2002 as part of the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act.

9 This was put in place to give leaseholders and tenants a greater say and the ability to self manage, which in some circumstances has clearly proven to be flawed.

10 Which Govt was in a charge when this law was passed? It was Labour.

That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website:

[Link]

"In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation."

Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire.

Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am)

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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Andy_G Wimbledon 23 Jun 17 11.54am
Building contractor now about to make fortunes replacing cladding because no one can wait and take in the evidence from the report. The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years
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Andy_G

Wimbledon 23 Jun 17 11.54am

Building contractor now about to make fortunes replacing cladding because no one can wait and take in the evidence from the report.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 12.50pm
Originally posted by Pikester Do you actually think I was being serious? One never knows with you ! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 12.50pm

Originally posted by Pikester

Do you actually think I was being serious?

One never knows with you !

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 1.10pm
Originally posted by Username That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website: [Link] "In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation." Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire. Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am) I covered a couple of the list but realised it's a waste of time as it would just be dismissed.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 1.10pm

Originally posted by Username

That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website:

[Link]

Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire.

Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am)

I covered a couple of the list but realised it's a waste of time as it would just be dismissed.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 4.06pm
Originally posted by Username That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website: [Link] "In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation." Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire. Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am) You did not read my post correctly as I said: 4 Emma Coad the sitting Labour MP for that ward also sat on the KCTMO I did not say she was an MP at the time. Sometimes I wonder if our political views blind us from the truth and we tend to read what we want to read and go away from the truth. All the points in the list I posted are correct and if you do not believe it so be it but the fact remains that you and Nick need to rein in and forget party allegiances. I for one will admit Theresa May and her crowd have done some pretty stupid things and are now paying for it badly and it will take a lot of time for them to pick themselves up from the dilemma that they are in. But it does not stop me from being a Tory in any way whatsoever. On the other side of the political divide we have delusions. Delusions about an election 'victory' without grasping the concept of the party who wins the most votes and most seats in Parliament actually wins the election. Delusions about undeliverable in the extreme - taking people for fools. Politics belongs to the people, and it is for them that the government must deliver. Lets them get on and deliver BREXIT - stop talking about replacing the PM or General elections; people are really tired of them. Let's not take people for fools by promising things that simply cannot be delivered! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 4.06pm

Originally posted by Username

That's just a complete lie. From the 'about us' section on the KCTMO website:

[Link]

Also, a bit rich pegging the 'sitting Labour MP' who had been elected on the 8th June, just days before the fire.
Edited by Username (23 Jun 2017 11.47am)

You did not read my post correctly as I said:

4 Emma Coad the sitting Labour MP for that ward also sat on the KCTMO

I did not say she was an MP at the time. Sometimes I wonder if our political views blind us from the truth and we tend to read what we want to read and go away from the truth.
All the points in the list I posted are correct and if you do not believe it so be it but the fact remains that you and Nick need to rein in and forget party allegiances. I for one will admit Theresa May and her crowd have done some pretty stupid things and are now paying for it badly and it will take a lot of time for them to pick themselves up from the dilemma that they are in. But it does not stop me from being a Tory in any way whatsoever.

On the other side of the political divide we have delusions. Delusions about an election 'victory' without grasping the concept of the party who wins the most votes and most seats in Parliament actually wins the election. Delusions about undeliverable in the extreme - taking people for fools.
Politics belongs to the people, and it is for them that the government must deliver. Lets them get on and deliver BREXIT - stop talking about replacing the PM or General elections; people are really tired of them. Let's not take people for fools by promising things that simply cannot be delivered!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Jun 17 6.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Bloody Marxists helping people. It's a tough choice, have a new flat, but have to put up with giant poster-portraits of Corbyn and his shadows on the walls - and all those slogans about building more tractors. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 23 Jun 17 6.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Bloody Marxists helping people.

It's a tough choice, have a new flat, but have to put up with giant poster-portraits of Corbyn and his shadows on the walls - and all those slogans about building more tractors.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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wordup 23 Jun 17 8.14pm
Camden evacuates tower block after Grenfell fire [Link]
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23 Jun 17 8.14pm

Camden evacuates tower block after Grenfell fire
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 8.26pm
3 Tower blocks in Plymouth have been classed as having the same rubbish cladding as in the fire in London and the Plymouth City Council are setting about removing it pronto. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Jun 17 8.26pm

3 Tower blocks in Plymouth have been classed as having the same rubbish cladding as in the fire in London and the Plymouth City Council are setting about removing it pronto.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 8.30pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 It's a tough choice, have a new flat, but have to put up with giant poster-portraits of Corbyn and his shadows on the walls - and all those slogans about building more tractors. Says the man who has Crusader wallpaper. Anyway. It'll be 'big sister' with Dianne Abbott images all over the gaff. Edited by nickgusset (23 Jun 2017 8.32pm)
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 8.30pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

It's a tough choice, have a new flat, but have to put up with giant poster-portraits of Corbyn and his shadows on the walls - and all those slogans about building more tractors.

Says the man who has Crusader wallpaper.

Anyway. It'll be 'big sister' with Dianne Abbott images all over the gaff.

Edited by nickgusset (23 Jun 2017 8.32pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Jun 17 8.51pm
Originally posted by wordup Camden evacuates tower block after Grenfell fire [Link] Now 5 tower blocks. 800 homes. How the fvck do you rehouse them until all cladding is removed? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Jun 17 8.51pm

Originally posted by wordup

Camden evacuates tower block after Grenfell fire
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Now 5 tower blocks. 800 homes. How the fvck do you rehouse them until all cladding is removed?

COYP

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