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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 17 2.33pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Deportation under UK law would require conviction. There isn't really any way around that, except in the following scenario. Alternatively, we could declare a state of emergency (as France has in relation to Paris), under which many of the pesky human rights aspects would be suspended for Terrorism. We did this in 2001, in order to detain certain individuals indefinitely in Belmarsh. However, three or four years later, they were still there, after the state of emergency was lifted. I would get rid of the need for conviction for deportation. I would devise the criteria for deportation under consultation but with no mistake that the state took back the right of residence within this country from the fcuking lawyers to our elected representatives. The balance between the human rights of extremists and the rights of innocent children not to be torn apart by nails isn't a problem for me.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Jun 17 3.03pm | |
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And off we go again.
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europalace Europe 07 Jun 17 4.08pm | |
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Looks like you (and a few others on here) will be disappointed: "Counter-terrorism police have been informed but are not treating it as a terrorist incident." Looks like just normal life in the UK.
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elgrande bedford 07 Jun 17 4.16pm | |
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Originally posted by europalace
Looks like you (and a few others on here) will be disappointed: "Counter-terrorism police have been informed but are not treating it as a terrorist incident." Looks like just normal life in the UK. Yeah really disappointed that a young woman has been slashed,you really are a grade A t***.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 17 4.43pm | |
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'we won't let them change our way of life (but we are going to have a go at decimating the human rights act)' seems to be May's line at the moment.
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europalace Europe 07 Jun 17 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Yeah really disappointed that a young woman has been slashed,you really are a grade A t***. Looks like one has crawled out of the woodwork, didn't take long. More to come I think as predicted.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Jun 17 4.50pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
'we won't let them change our way of life (but we are going to have a go at decimating the human rights act)' seems to be May's line at the moment. What the human 'rights' that stopped us deporting the fascist Abu Qatada for about eight years and cost us millions - that 'human rights'?
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NKEagle Pyongyang 07 Jun 17 4.55pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Egypt or Jordan won't want our radicals either, they have their own problems with their own (Egypt is staggering on the precipice of civil war). If that's the case, "deport" them to the middle of the ocean. Or into the back of a wood chipper
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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jun 17 4.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I would get rid of the need for conviction for deportation. I would devise the criteria for deportation under consultation but with no mistake that the state took back the right of residence within this country from the fcuking lawyers to our elected representatives. The balance between the human rights of extremists and the rights of innocent children not to be torn apart by nails isn't a problem for me.
I don't think you or a British Government could. It'd be turned over in the Law Courts. You cannot exact Punishment without law, is a basic tenant of UK law. Its ratified by the Human Rights Act, but it effectively dates back to Magna Carta. Its not even really about rights, but the basis of British Law. You'd definitely need a trial or conviction as the basis to establish deportation.
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jun 17 5.02pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What the human 'rights' that stopped us deporting the fascist Abu Qatada for about eight years and cost us millions - that 'human rights'? " In May 2012 the European Court of Human Rights denied him leave to appeal against deportation without specifying a reason but on 12 November 2012 the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC) upheld Abu Qatada's appeal against deportation and released him on restrictive bail conditions. The Home Secretary Theresa May said the government would appeal against the decision. " Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jun 2017 5.02pm)
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NKEagle Pyongyang 07 Jun 17 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It does make you wonder. But I guess its the right to free speech and assembly, and protest etc yeah I know liberal s**t, but when you start to say 'Ok only some topics are allowed it probably gets a bit 'dodgy'. What is acceptable? Personally, I think we could justify rounding up anyone who supports IS, the question is probably whether or not in the long run that would help, or create more sympathy for these c**ts. There's no perfect place to draw the line. It's like the Potter Stewart definition of p*rnography -- "I know it when I see it." I don't think it's possible to create any hard and fast definitions that would simultaneously secure us against all (or almost all) future attacks and not result in scores of truly innocent people being rounded up/interned/deported/etc.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jun 17 5.05pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What the human 'rights' that stopped us deporting the fascist Abu Qatada for about eight years and cost us millions - that 'human rights'? You mean the fact that we granted him political asylum from a country, and then tried to deport him back to that country. Logic, and reason, dictates that you cannot deport someone to a country which you have granted them political asylum from.
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