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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 05 Aug 15 5.49pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

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Quote elgrande at 05 Aug 2015 5.10pm

And whats more I owned a Business in Spain Paid tax and employed local people and their services.


didn't know the dogging business was so big over there mate

why on earth did you return elgrande?

I'm off to Portugal next few years
(teach the buggers how to paint.)

ha ha ha don't ask don't get.
Divorce mate...Sold the business and went our seperate ways.
Mind you I had a wonderful 6 months after before I came home.


ha ha.
good on you.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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elgrande Flag bedford 05 Aug 15 5.50pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 5.48pm

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Quote elgrande at 05 Aug 2015 4.51pm

I lived in Spain for 3 and a half years...and I came back,am I entitled to?

And I knew loads of pensioners who came back.
Claiming the pension that they have PAID into all their lives.


So what's to say that people coming here might go back after 3 years?

Yeah but I had the right to live in Spain and funnily enough the right to live here..........BIG difference.


I take it then that you're happy for our European brothers and sisters to come here and do the same?

My sister spent a couple of years living in Spain , really did her a lot of good.


Well yes as we are part of the European union.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Aug 15 6.14pm

Interesting figures from channel 4 regarding asylum seekers taken in by different EU countries. If anything it shows how some can wildly overestimate we take in.


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 05 Aug 15 8.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 6.14pm

Interesting figures from channel 4 regarding asylum seekers taken in by different EU countries. If anything it shows how some can wildly overestimate we take in.


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Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be?

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 05 Aug 15 10.20pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

'Far Left infiltrate Migrant camps':

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 12.34am

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If you wanted to help...

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 06 Aug 15 7.44am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

'Migrants told to lie about their sexuality':

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I would imagine that most gay people are appalled by this.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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chris123 Flag hove actually 06 Aug 15 8.06am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 06 Aug 2015 7.44am

'Migrants told to lie about their sexuality':

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I would imagine that most gay people are appalled by this.


Be gay in France then.

 

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beagle Flag pom tiddly om pom pom 06 Aug 15 8.49am Send a Private Message to beagle Add beagle as a friend

Quote kingdowieonthewall at 05 Aug 2015 5.30pm

Quote elgrande at 05 Aug 2015 5.10pm

And whats more I owned a Business in Spain Paid tax and employed local people and their services.


didn't know the dogging business was so big over there mate

why on earth did you return elgrande?

I'm off to Portugal next few years
(teach the buggers how to paint.)

Are you referring to Dulux or Windsor & Newton?


 


When the time comes, I want die just like my Dad - at peace and asleep.
Not screaming and terrified.
Like his passengers.

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Aug 15 9.46am

Quote leggedstruggle at 05 Aug 2015 8.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 6.14pm

Interesting figures from channel 4 regarding asylum seekers taken in by different EU countries. If anything it shows how some can wildly overestimate we take in.


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Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be?

Immigration Controls are irrelevant to Asylum which is managed under the UK's obligation to the UN Charter on Refugees. You could have a no migration situation, and that still wouldn't prevent citizenship and temporary residency for asylum seekers.


 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Aug 15 9.50am

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If all expats decided to come home at once, how would you feel about allowing them in if we are already overcrowded?

Legally it depends if they're still citizens doesn't it, but it's fair to assume they left for a reason as have the migrants.

You seem to favour those with families here. That would likely apply to most expats.


Edited by johnfirewall (05 Aug 2015 3.44pm)


The question was purely a hypothetical one about numbers and people's attitudes to a 'swarm' of expats in our bursting full green and pleasant, rather than reasons / family ties.

They're not going to be ripping the fences down are they. Thay can all re-integrate immediately, likely have accommodation in the UK and won't be entitled to benefits.


Even those ex pats claiming benefits abroad?

That's quite similar to foreign nationals here claiming for children outside of the UK, except this actually happens.

There are limits for how long you can be away, which are significantly shorter than the length of time it'd take to be considered even a de facto expat.

Or do you mean a pension which someone has already paid in to?


UK Benefits, if you're not a citizen, have to be paid in for. Most foreign nationals need to have worked for at least 3 years to be entitled to welfare payments as a foreign national.

Personally I don't believe anyone not resident in the UK, should be able to claim any kind of benefit from the state, except for pension and student subsidies. Those leaving the UK, who have 'worked the requisite period to qualify for benefits' should be paid off based on their tax payments during their time in the UK.


 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 06 Aug 15 10.29am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Aug 2015 9.50am

Quote johnfirewall at 05 Aug 2015 4.33pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 4.25pm

Quote johnfirewall at 05 Aug 2015 4.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 4.08pm

Quote johnfirewall at 05 Aug 2015 3.43pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Aug 2015 3.33pm

If all expats decided to come home at once, how would you feel about allowing them in if we are already overcrowded?

Legally it depends if they're still citizens doesn't it, but it's fair to assume they left for a reason as have the migrants.

You seem to favour those with families here. That would likely apply to most expats.


Edited by johnfirewall (05 Aug 2015 3.44pm)


The question was purely a hypothetical one about numbers and people's attitudes to a 'swarm' of expats in our bursting full green and pleasant, rather than reasons / family ties.

They're not going to be ripping the fences down are they. Thay can all re-integrate immediately, likely have accommodation in the UK and won't be entitled to benefits.


Even those ex pats claiming benefits abroad?

That's quite similar to foreign nationals here claiming for children outside of the UK, except this actually happens.

There are limits for how long you can be away, which are significantly shorter than the length of time it'd take to be considered even a de facto expat.

Or do you mean a pension which someone has already paid in to?


UK Benefits, if you're not a citizen, have to be paid in for. Most foreign nationals need to have worked for at least 3 years to be entitled to welfare payments as a foreign national.

Personally I don't believe anyone not resident in the UK, should be able to claim any kind of benefit from the state, except for pension and student subsidies. Those leaving the UK, who have 'worked the requisite period to qualify for benefits' should be paid off based on their tax payments during their time in the UK.


Do you think that there should be any immigration controls. If so, why do we need them and what should they be?

 


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