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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 23 11.42am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Enjoy! Where is Mrs W taking you?

Rwanda sight-seeing tour.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 23 11.44am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Enjoy! Where is Mrs W taking you?

Unfortunately my dear wife will be accompanying me !
We will be enjoying a short sojourn to Tenerife, well away from the raucous nightlife and underdressed ladies in Playa De Las Americas !

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 23 11.45am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Rwanda sight-seeing tour.

First stop, 'Kigali'.

 

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BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.46am

Originally posted by Willo

This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left.

13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right !

I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes !

Nothing else to debate. Unfortunately for you, the truth is not optional. And The Tories have been in charge for the last 13 years and f*cked this country sideways. Unless you can create another alternative reality rapido, then I'm afraid it is game set and match as far as this point is concerned.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 23 11.48am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Great news no?

The worry is that they tried to push on with it against such overwhelming condemnation from experts.

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.13am)

I do hope they will give all this the heave-ho.

Apparently leaving the ECHR makes no difference, it will still be unlawful.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 23 11.52am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Nothing else to debate. Unfortunately for you, the truth is not optional. And The Tories have been in charge for the last 13 years and f*cked this country sideways. Unless you can create another alternative reality rapido, then I'm afraid it is game set and match as far as this point is concerned.

I disagree with your vitriolic condemnation of the record of this Government in the last 13 years.If the record was so abysmal why were Labour defeated in FOUR elections ?

Nothing more to add to this debate as I need to prepare for my holiday tomorrow and the time is marching on !! Have yourself a good day, my kind regards to you.

 

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BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 15 Nov 23 12.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

I disagree with your vitriolic condemnation of the record of this Government in the last 13 years.If the record was so abysmal why were Labour defeated in FOUR elections ?

Nothing more to add to this debate as I need to prepare for my holiday tomorrow and the time is marching on !! Have yourself a good day, my kind regards to you.

Because of Brexit. Plain and simple. That is the only reason that the Tories won the last election at such a canter. Prior to that they were on the ropes. The used populism to stoke the electorates base fears and then presented themselves as the only option to fix those fears. Lie,lies and more damn lies. Nothing has been fixed, only broken. And it's time for them to pay the price for their massive failures by making way in a GE. General Election now! Each day that this sorry excuse for a government clings onto power in any way they possible, is another day where damage is being done to our country and it's reputation.
If you were really patriotic and a nationalist, you'd see this and demand the change yourself.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 15 Nov 23 12.09pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I disagree with your vitriolic condemnation of the record of this Government in the last 13 years.If the record was so abysmal why were Labour defeated in FOUR elections ?

Nothing more to add to this debate as I need to prepare for my holiday tomorrow and the time is marching on !! Have yourself a good day, my kind regards to you.

What are some of the achievements on the record of this Government then?

Forget any other parties, what have this one achieved in their 13 years of government?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 23 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

NHS

Furlough

Child and Family support

Free Schooling

Unemployment support and training

Pensions

Social Care

That should be enough to get you started.

Mmmm....Hitler increased pensions, access to welfare and free daycare.
So are you sure you want to accept those things are inherently left wing?

You can have the madness of furlough.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 12.10pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 15 Nov 23 12.13pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

NHS

Furlough

Child and Family support

Free Schooling

Unemployment support and training

Pensions

Social Care

That should be enough to get you started.

In the post-war election the Conservatives had almost identical proposals for a NHS in their manifesto.

Pensions and social welfare services go back to Lloyd George.

Free schooling goes back to 1870 under Gladstone.

Can you you give us example of successful socialist/communist governments?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Nov 23 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

That EU member Denmark do it and others are considering it.
I said months ago, it would not go ahead but I backed the plan as it would be seen as a deterrent which is the only way to attempt stopping the wave of illegal economic migrants.
Still the left will have to look long and hard as to the reasons there is not enough funding for NHS, housing, schooling etc

I think that, eventually, a plan of this kind will be established, but done legally. I heard a day or so ago someone connected to the government (sorry but did not note who) anticipate this decision but said it was not the end of the line and that there was a lot of misunderstanding about the legal position. He said there was already quiet work underway to overcome the barriers.

 


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BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 15 Nov 23 12.18pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmm....Hitler increased pensions, access to welfare and free daycare.
So are you sure you want to accept those things are inherently left wing?

You can have the madness of furlough.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 12.10pm)

Not in this country he didn’t.

 

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