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Stirlingsays 15 Nov 23 11.10am
Our legal system is full of liberals and leftists and it isn't fit for purpose. Like most politicians in this land it opposes the laws that the right wing would like and I suspect would approve of laws they wouldn't. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.10am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Nov 23 11.10am

Our legal system is full of liberals and leftists and it isn't fit for purpose.

Like most politicians in this land it opposes the laws that the right wing would like and I suspect would approve of laws they wouldn't.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.10am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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BrentisBack Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.10am
Originally posted by steeleye20 The chicken supreme court rules against Rishi on Rwanda. Great news no? The worry is that they tried to push on with it against such overwhelming condemnation from experts. Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.13am)
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Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.10am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The chicken supreme court rules against Rishi on Rwanda.

Great news no?

The worry is that they tried to push on with it against such overwhelming condemnation from experts.

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.13am)

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BrentisBack Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.14am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Our legal system is full of liberals and leftists and it isn't fit for purpose. Like most politicians in this land it opposes the laws that the right wing would like and I suspect would approve of laws they wouldn't. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.10am) Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose. Right wing politics/populism simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment? Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am) Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.18am)
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Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.14am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Our legal system is full of liberals and leftists and it isn't fit for purpose.

Like most politicians in this land it opposes the laws that the right wing would like and I suspect would approve of laws they wouldn't.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2023 11.10am)

Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose.
Right wing politics/populism simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment?

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am)

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.18am)

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Stirlingsays 15 Nov 23 11.18am
This is the racism of the liberal left. Essentially they say other countries are inferior to them because they are not within the liberal image. The logic of which means that in principle anyone from....what is in fact most of the world....manages to get here has a home here. These people think they are good people but they destroy everything they touch. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Nov 23 11.18am

This is the racism of the liberal left. Essentially they say other countries are inferior to them because they are not within the liberal image.

The logic of which means that in principle anyone from....what is in fact most of the world....manages to get here has a home here.

These people think they are good people but they destroy everything they touch.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 23 11.19am
Originally posted by BrentisBack Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose. Right wing politics simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment? Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am) This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left. 13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right ! I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes !
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South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 23 11.19am

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose.
Right wing politics simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment?

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am)

This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left.

13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right !

I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes !

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.21am
Originally posted by BrentisBack Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose. Right wing politics simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment? Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am) That EU member Denmark do it and others are considering it. I said months ago, it would not go ahead but I backed the plan as it would be seen as a deterrent which is the only way to attempt stopping the wave of illegal economic migrants. Still the left will have to look long and hard as to the reasons there is not enough funding for NHS, housing, schooling etc
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Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.21am

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose.
Right wing politics simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment?

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am)

That EU member Denmark do it and others are considering it.
I said months ago, it would not go ahead but I backed the plan as it would be seen as a deterrent which is the only way to attempt stopping the wave of illegal economic migrants.
Still the left will have to look long and hard as to the reasons there is not enough funding for NHS, housing, schooling etc

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.22am
Originally posted by Willo This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left. 13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right ! I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes ! Enjoy! Where is Mrs W taking you?
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Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.22am

Originally posted by Willo

This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left.

13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right !

I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes !

Enjoy! Where is Mrs W taking you?

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georgenorman 15 Nov 23 11.25am
Originally posted by BrentisBack Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose. Right wing politics/populism simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment? Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am) Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.18am) Can you give us some examples of where left wing politics work well.
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15 Nov 23 11.25am

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Maybe that is because the right wing laws and ideals are outdated and no longer fit for purpose.
Right wing politics/populism simply just don’t work. Hence why the country is in the mess it is after 13 years of terrible administration. Penny drop moment?

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.15am)

Edited by BrentisBack (15 Nov 2023 11.18am)

Can you give us some examples of where left wing politics work well.

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.27am
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham Somebody mentioned on TV there was strong support for Cruella in the party ... FIVE people he said! She also made me smile when she chastised Rishi for being an unelected Prime Minister ... seemingly forgetting it also meant she was an unelected Home Secretary. Can you name 1 elected Home Secretary? I can’t and I worked for the Home Office.
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Horsham 15 Nov 23 11.27am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

Somebody mentioned on TV there was strong support for Cruella in the party ... FIVE people he said! She also made me smile when she chastised Rishi for being an unelected Prime Minister ... seemingly forgetting it also meant she was an unelected Home Secretary.

Can you name 1 elected Home Secretary? I can’t and I worked for the Home Office.

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BrentisBack Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.30am
Originally posted by Willo This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left. 13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right ! I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes ! What have they done right exactly? Because I can't see anything they've do e right. And they've had a good run of it. They win elections because of the power of the right wing press in this country and the thickos read it and follow exactly what it tells them to do. They tip the scales. But ultimately, they almost lost to the crazy(In the right wing presses opinion) Jeremy Corbyn in 2017. But again the readership of these right wing rags got them out of jail with a penalty in the last second of extra time. It's not all been rosey and plain sailing has it.
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Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.30am

Originally posted by Willo

This 13 years hackneyed mantra, persistently spouted by the Left.

13 years during which the Conservatives were victorious in FOUR General Elections.Must have been doing something right !

I shall now leave the debate to others as I am preparing for a holiday to sunny climes !

What have they done right exactly? Because I can't see anything they've do e right. And they've had a good run of it.
They win elections because of the power of the right wing press in this country and the thickos read it and follow exactly what it tells them to do. They tip the scales.
But ultimately, they almost lost to the crazy(In the right wing presses opinion) Jeremy Corbyn in 2017. But again the readership of these right wing rags got them out of jail with a penalty in the last second of extra time. It's not all been rosey and plain sailing has it.

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BrentisBack Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.32am
Originally posted by Spiderman That EU member Denmark do it and others are considering it. I said months ago, it would not go ahead but I backed the plan as it would be seen as a deterrent which is the only way to attempt stopping the wave of illegal economic migrants. Still the left will have to look long and hard as to the reasons there is not enough funding for NHS, housing, schooling etc We don't have to look long or hard at all. It's because the tories have run the services into the round with cuts and under funding. Nothing to do with immigrants. There's not that many of them to cause any difference in services at all. You're all just fed that as a distraction by the Tory owned press and fall for it.
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Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.32am

Originally posted by Spiderman

We don't have to look long or hard at all. It's because the tories have run the services into the round with cuts and under funding. Nothing to do with immigrants. There's not that many of them to cause any difference in services at all. You're all just fed that as a distraction by the Tory owned press and fall for it.

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BrentisBack Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.35am
Originally posted by georgenorman Can you give us some examples of where left wing politics work well. NHS Furlough Child and Family support Free Schooling Unemployment support and training Pensions Social Care That should be enough to get you started.
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Beckenham 15 Nov 23 11.35am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Can you give us some examples of where left wing politics work well.

NHS

Furlough

Child and Family support

Free Schooling

Unemployment support and training

Pensions

Social Care

That should be enough to get you started.

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