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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 03 Aug 20 3.12pm | |
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I'm pretty sure that we'll find out that it was somehow Wayne Hennessy's fault.
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Matov 03 Aug 20 3.41pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
As I understand it, and the science is way above my head, there is something about the protein strand that is causing at lot of people to scratch their heads. Essentially that this virus appears to have the look of one that has been evolving for a period of years, between 20 to 30, at least in terms of its ability to be transmitted between humans with such a high frequency. Because there are some incredible documented cases of multiple infections from one single event. A 'new' virus will rarely have that ability, usually requiring mutating into that and, at the same time, lessening in its ferocity because its central role is to replicate itself as wide as possible and it cannot do that if it kills its hosts before they can pass it on. As to the impact on people from certain groups, then there are no doubt a whole host of reasons but, and I concede I am reading between the lines here, there are potential genetic factors linked to race that might be playing a large part in this.
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Eaglecoops CR3 03 Aug 20 7.19pm | |
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Originally posted by mezzer
I'm pretty sure that we'll find out that it was somehow Wayne Hennessy's fault. I’d salute you sir, but apparently that’s not permitted!
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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 04 Aug 20 12.12am | |
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Originally posted by mezzer
I'm pretty sure that we'll find out that it was somehow Wayne Hennessy's fault. Very good indeed!
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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Aug 20 10.35am | |
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I thought I would start a debate about the topic below. Are people working on site being unfairly treated whilst other are furloughed. My mate is a building engineer (works for a sub contractor) for one of the large banks in London his building holds 4000 staff, last week it was under 200. Since the start of the lock down he has gone to work every day except for the first couple of weeks. He was originally told he would alternate one week on one week off but that ended after 2 weeks. So he has spent 5 months at work whilst his colleagues have sat at home on 80% of their salary a choice he wasn't given and they of course as engineers can't work from home. Now his boss is complaining as he wants a holiday (the sub contractor not the bank). The reason he is at work is that he is the key guy the other blokes you can just about trust to change a light bulb. However it seems grossly unfair that he and probably a lot of others are forced to work whilst their colleagues do nothing. I am retired but I would have bitten your hand off to sit at home on 80% of my salary. The issue here is not about working from home but furloughed whilst others have to work. Thoughts Edited by Badger11 (04 Aug 2020 10.36am)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Aug 20 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I thought I would start a debate about the topic below. Are people working on site being unfairly treated whilst other are furloughed. My mate is a building engineer (works for a sub contractor) for one of the large banks in London his building holds 4000 staff, last week it was under 200. Since the start of the lock down he has gone to work every day except for the first couple of weeks. He was originally told he would alternate one week on one week off but that ended after 2 weeks. So he has spent 5 months at work whilst his colleagues have sat at home on 80% of their salary a choice he wasn't given and they of course as engineers can't work from home. Now his boss is complaining as he wants a holiday (the sub contractor not the bank). The reason he is at work is that he is the key guy the other blokes you can just about trust to change a light bulb. However it seems grossly unfair that he and probably a lot of others are forced to work whilst their colleagues do nothing. I am retired but I would have bitten your hand off to sit at home on 80% of my salary. The issue here is not about working from home but furloughed whilst others have to work. Thoughts Edited by Badger11 (04 Aug 2020 10.36am) I usually run a team of 4 who were all furloughed at the earliest opportunity - I was kept on but my workload throughout the couple of months was insanity and probably as stressful as I’ve ever found work. I would’ve sat it out for 80% in a heartbeat. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (04 Aug 2020 12.06pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Aug 20 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I usually run a team of 4 who were all furloughed at the earliest opportunity - I was kept on but my workload throughout the couple of months was insanity and probably as stressful as I’ve ever found work. I would’ve sat it out for 80% in a heartbeat. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (04 Aug 2020 12.06pm) I worked from home as did plenty of others - so not furloughed. Working from home was more time consuming in every way. The only thing it saved was the commute. It took several hours every day filling in the forms and answering the emails and Microsoft Teams messages that were obviously designed to check if I was working hard enough. Reminds me I haven't checked Teams for months. And still probably won't. I'm a difficult employee at the best of times. And these are not the best of times.
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cryrst The garden of England 04 Aug 20 1.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I thought I would start a debate about the topic below. Are people working on site being unfairly treated whilst other are furloughed. My mate is a building engineer (works for a sub contractor) for one of the large banks in London his building holds 4000 staff, last week it was under 200. Since the start of the lock down he has gone to work every day except for the first couple of weeks. He was originally told he would alternate one week on one week off but that ended after 2 weeks. So he has spent 5 months at work whilst his colleagues have sat at home on 80% of their salary a choice he wasn't given and they of course as engineers can't work from home. Now his boss is complaining as he wants a holiday (the sub contractor not the bank). The reason he is at work is that he is the key guy the other blokes you can just about trust to change a light bulb. However it seems grossly unfair that he and probably a lot of others are forced to work whilst their colleagues do nothing. I am retired but I would have bitten your hand off to sit at home on 80% of my salary. The issue here is not about working from home but furloughed whilst others have to work. Thoughts Edited by Badger11 (04 Aug 2020 10.36am) Im an engineer and worked all the way through and some were furloughed. Doesnt bother me really as it would have been harder at home with the enemy
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Aug 20 2.15pm | |
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Charlie Mullins who owns Pimlico Plumbers has caused a row over sacking fit and healthy workers who want to be furloughed when he wants them back at work but they’ve refused. He has said he has all the time in the world for the vulnerable.’ These frightened or just work shirkers should be careful what they wish for. It’s an employers market now and not much stopping him hiring an agency somewhere thousands of miles away to answer telephone calls. If there are plumbers refusing then there’s not a lot someone can do about providing a plumbing service in people’s homes. The London infection situation is low atm anyway. Edited by Rudi Hedman (04 Aug 2020 2.23pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Aug 20 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Charlie Mullins who owns Pimlico Plumbers has caused a row over sacking fit and healthy workers who want to be furloughed when he wants them back at work but they’ve refused. He has said he has all the time in the world for the vulnerable.’ These frightened or just work shirkers should be careful what they wish for. It’s an employers market now and not much stopping him hiring an agency somewhere thousands of miles away to answer telephone calls. If there are plumbers refusing then there’s not a lot someone can do about providing a plumbing service in people’s homes. The London infection situation is low atm anyway. Edited by Rudi Hedman (04 Aug 2020 2.23pm) He didn't come over well as far as I am concerned. In fact, absolutely no way I would use his services after the way he seems to treat workers. You're entirely right though, worker's rights have been eroded for decades. I'm not asking for the unionisation if the 60s and 70s,rather that employers are actually held accountable for proper employment law.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Aug 20 2.48pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He didn't come over well as far as I am concerned. In fact, absolutely no way I would use his services after the way he seems to treat workers. You're entirely right though, worker's rights have been eroded for decades. I'm not asking for the unionisation if the 60s and 70s,rather that employers are actually held accountable for proper employment law. If everyone opposed going back to work then we’d see where we are pretty quickly. The furloughed office workers haven’t been back yet to have grounds to refuse. Plumbers cannot be made safe or completely safe. He did say vulnerable people are different. If we want to wrap everyone up in cotton wool for months and years we’d better get used to national poverty.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 04 Aug 20 3.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I thought I would start a debate about the topic below. Are people working on site being unfairly treated whilst other are furloughed. My mate is a building engineer (works for a sub contractor) for one of the large banks in London his building holds 4000 staff, last week it was under 200. Since the start of the lock down he has gone to work every day except for the first couple of weeks. He was originally told he would alternate one week on one week off but that ended after 2 weeks. So he has spent 5 months at work whilst his colleagues have sat at home on 80% of their salary a choice he wasn't given and they of course as engineers can't work from home. Now his boss is complaining as he wants a holiday (the sub contractor not the bank). The reason he is at work is that he is the key guy the other blokes you can just about trust to change a light bulb. However it seems grossly unfair that he and probably a lot of others are forced to work whilst their colleagues do nothing. I am retired but I would have bitten your hand off to sit at home on 80% of my salary. The issue here is not about working from home but furloughed whilst others have to work. Thoughts Edited by Badger11 (04 Aug 2020 10.36am)
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