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  Hrolf The Ganger  15 Jan 24 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Well you can probly find more lies in a single speech by Trump that the supposedly lies in your list. Debating this topic is so pointless because the truth is treated with contempt by so many of the parties involved. If you shout something loud and frequently enough you'll recruit believers. "Facts" are meaningless because they can't be reliably believed.
I think that's how the Democrats won the last election. Well, that and stuffing some ballot boxes with fake votes.
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 15 Jan 24 3.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think that's how the Democrats won the last election. Well, that and stuffing some ballot boxes with fake votes.
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 Jan 24 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Well you can probly find more lies in a single speech by Trump that the supposedly lies in your list. Debating this topic is so pointless because the truth is treated with contempt by so many of the parties involved. If you shout something loud and frequently enough you'll recruit believers. "Facts" are meaningless because they can't be reliably believed.
Edited by cryrst (15 Jan 2024 4.14pm)
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| Stirlingsays 15 Jan 24 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Well you can probly find more lies in a single speech by Trump that the supposedly lies in your list. Debating this topic is so pointless because the truth is treated with contempt by so many of the parties involved. If you shout something loud and frequently enough you'll recruit believers. "Facts" are meaningless because they can't be reliably believed. Like every politician Trump does lie we will agree on that.....most of those lies will deserve criticism, we would also probably agree on that. However, he also talks much more truth than say the Democrats....For example during 2016 he exposed the truth about why the rich are allowed to avoid tax and he spoke about the power lobbyists have over politicians. What truths have the Democrats spoken about concerning the system. You can say that Trump lies just as much in a single speech as the items in that list but can you actually back that up?
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| eaglesdare 15 Jan 24 6.43pm |
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It's only a lie if Trump says it but God forbid sleepy Joe lies it's for the "greater good"
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| Stirlingsays 15 Jan 24 8.04pm |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jan 24 9.34pm |
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The Steele dossier was always described, right from the very day of it’s release, as being a series of testimonies from those with personal knowledge of events who are known to Steele from his time as our spy in Moscow. He always acknowledged that some of them might be half truths, or completely untrue, but that there was enough of an over lapping pattern for him to be confident of the general thrust. The Steele dossier did not exist in isolation. Various US security agencies had their own sources, which haven’t been released, but which were said to confirm many of the Steele dossiers assertions. So it cannot just be brushed aside. It might not all be true. Some of the salacious accusations seem to be questionable. There is enough there though for genuine concerns. The Steele dossier was originally commissioned by a group of “Never-Trumpers”. The DNC only got involved later when they used it as a piece of opposition research. They did us all a favour! Ramaswamy seems determined to present himself as an even more outrageous personality than Trump. So presenting a list of “Big Lies” and then trying to convince the gullible they are true is right on course. That they pop up here shows it’s working.
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 15 Jan 24 11.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Like every politician Trump does lie we will agree on that.....most of those lies will deserve criticism, we would also probably agree on that. However, he also talks much more truth than say the Democrats....For example during 2016 he exposed the truth about why the rich are allowed to avoid tax and he spoke about the power lobbyists have over politicians. What truths have the Democrats spoken about concerning the system. You can say that Trump lies just as much in a single speech as the items in that list but can you actually back that up?
You first, with your list.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 3.10am |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
You first, with your list.
You made the claim about Trump, you back it up.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 5.39am |
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Trump wins in Iowa by nearly 30 percent.....more than doubling the previous record margin that was 12 percent. New Hampshire is in eight days. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2024 5.43am)
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 6.33am |
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 24 6.54am |
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These people are insane. [Tweet Link]
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