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hedgehog50 Croydon 18 Jan 17 8.20am
Originally posted by europalace I've lived in 5 EU countries during the last 22 years. Every single one has provided a much higher quality of life for us than we ever had in the UK. Income is higher, expendable income also higher, health systems infinitely better and also education. Some of you should give it a try. My kids now also speak 3 languages as a result. So please explain what in the EU is 'blighting' our lives? The UK media spread so many lies about the EU and people like you actually believe the rubbish they spout. I've lived in 6 countries in Europe including the UK and that is the only country I would never take my family back to. Edited by europalace (17 Jan 2017 10.22pm) Which 5 countries? Are you a bankrobber? Edited by hedgehog50 (18 Jan 2017 9.44am) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 18 Jan 17 8.20am

Originally posted by europalace

I've lived in 5 EU countries during the last 22 years. Every single one has provided a much higher quality of life for us than we ever had in the UK. Income is higher, expendable income also higher, health systems infinitely better and also education. Some of you should give it a try. My kids now also speak 3 languages as a result.

So please explain what in the EU is 'blighting' our lives? The UK media spread so many lies about the EU and people like you actually believe the rubbish they spout. I've lived in 6 countries in Europe including the UK and that is the only country I would never take my family back to.

Edited by europalace (17 Jan 2017 10.22pm)

Which 5 countries? Are you a bankrobber?

Edited by hedgehog50 (18 Jan 2017 9.44am)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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europalace Europe 18 Jan 17 8.51am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Which 5 countries? Germany, Austria, Italy, Malta, Netherlands.
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Europe 18 Jan 17 8.51am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Which 5 countries?

Germany, Austria, Italy, Malta, Netherlands.

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Hoof Hearted 18 Jan 17 1.39pm
The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him! The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!) ....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here.
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Hoof Hearted 18 Jan 17 1.39pm

The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him!

The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!)

....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 17 1.42pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him! The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!) ....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here. Good to see the self awareness here.
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 17 1.42pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him!

....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here.

Good to see the self awareness here.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Jan 17 1.46pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him! The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!) ....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here. Could reasonably spell financial disaster for Scotland. Not that that would necessarily stop people voting for something, there is a considered risk to the UK economy, certainly in the short term, that leaving the EU could damage the UK econonmy as well. I don't think it will seriously damage the UK economy, but its very reasonable to consider it will have an impact, certainly in the short term, of being outside the Common Market. Also, in addition, the UK rental market and thus housing market, is heavily based on EU migrants. Removing them from the equation, is likely to result in a drop in rental demand - This is likely to result in property being sold to cover losses (and defaulted buy to let mortgages) and carry over a knock on into the wider housing market (which could in term affect a lot of investment portfolios, banks, building societies etc). So, I wouldn't be too sure that 'financial stability' trumps 'nationalist nonsense' every time. Edited by jamiemartin721 (18 Jan 2017 1.49pm) "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 18 Jan 17 1.46pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him!

The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!)

....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here.

Could reasonably spell financial disaster for Scotland. Not that that would necessarily stop people voting for something, there is a considered risk to the UK economy, certainly in the short term, that leaving the EU could damage the UK econonmy as well.

I don't think it will seriously damage the UK economy, but its very reasonable to consider it will have an impact, certainly in the short term, of being outside the Common Market.

Also, in addition, the UK rental market and thus housing market, is heavily based on EU migrants. Removing them from the equation, is likely to result in a drop in rental demand - This is likely to result in property being sold to cover losses (and defaulted buy to let mortgages) and carry over a knock on into the wider housing market (which could in term affect a lot of investment portfolios, banks, building societies etc).

So, I wouldn't be too sure that 'financial stability' trumps 'nationalist nonsense' every time.

Edited by jamiemartin721 (18 Jan 2017 1.49pm)

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 18 Jan 17 1.47pm
Originally posted by europalace Germany, Austria, Italy, Malta, Netherlands. Five countries that wont be spending £100bn or so on nuclear weapons over the next thirty years. Edited by Sedlescombe (18 Jan 2017 1.47pm)
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Sedlescombe 18 Jan 17 1.47pm

Originally posted by europalace

Germany, Austria, Italy, Malta, Netherlands.

Five countries that wont be spending £100bn or so on nuclear weapons over the next thirty years.

Edited by Sedlescombe (18 Jan 2017 1.47pm)

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Hoof Hearted 18 Jan 17 1.51pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Could reasonably spell financial disaster for Scotland. Not that that would necessarily stop people voting for something, there is a considered risk to the UK economy, certainly in the short term, that leaving the EU could damage the UK econonmy as well. I don't think it will seriously damage the UK economy, but its very reasonable to consider it will have an impact, certainly in the short term, of being outside the Common Market. THe understatement of the decade jamie! Scotland would be fcuked in a very short time and would fare no better than Greece. Last time they had the referendum on Independence the canny Jocks threw it out... since then Oil revenues have plummeted making it a total non starter on economic grounds now. She knows it too... her current bravado is a bluff to obtain further freebies for devolution.
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Hoof Hearted 18 Jan 17 1.51pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I don't think it will seriously damage the UK economy, but its very reasonable to consider it will have an impact, certainly in the short term, of being outside the Common Market.

THe understatement of the decade jamie!

Scotland would be fcuked in a very short time and would fare no better than Greece.

Last time they had the referendum on Independence the canny Jocks threw it out... since then Oil revenues have plummeted making it a total non starter on economic grounds now.

She knows it too... her current bravado is a bluff to obtain further freebies for devolution.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 17 1.57pm
Hmm Has this cartoonist got it right. Attachment: FB_IMG_1484747696567.jpg (41.26Kb)
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Hmm

Has this cartoonist got it right.

Attachment: FB_IMG_1484747696567.jpg (41.26Kb)

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steeleye20 Croydon 18 Jan 17 2.06pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted THe understatement of the decade jamie! Scotland would be fcuked in a very short time and would fare no better than Greece. Last time they had the referendum on Independence the canny Jocks threw it out... since then Oil revenues have plummeted making it a total non starter on economic grounds now. She knows it too... her current bravado is a bluff to obtain further freebies for devolution. I don't think Mrs.S is bluffing but she will want to choose the right moment and we are still have 2 years to go.
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Croydon 18 Jan 17 2.06pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

THe understatement of the decade jamie!

Scotland would be fcuked in a very short time and would fare no better than Greece.

Last time they had the referendum on Independence the canny Jocks threw it out... since then Oil revenues have plummeted making it a total non starter on economic grounds now.

She knows it too... her current bravado is a bluff to obtain further freebies for devolution.

I don't think Mrs.S is bluffing but she will want to choose the right moment and we are still have 2 years to go.

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 18 Jan 17 2.13pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him! The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!) ....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here. It is an interesting debate to be had around the state of the Scottish economy in the event of Independence. However if the case is that the Scottish economy is too weak to support itself then why is that an argument for staying within the UK? Surely after 250 years of rule from London then the only way the Scottish economy is every to support itself is - as I believe others have said to "take back control"
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Sedlescombe 18 Jan 17 2.13pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

The biggest tw@t to pass comment about Brexit yesterday was Tim Farron.... I thought he was going to burst into tears bless him!

The usual SNP yap yap yap from wee Jimmy Krankie as well.... making sure we don't forget her "threat" of Scottish Independence (except that most of the Jocks are too clever to actually vote for it as it would spell financial disaster for Scotland!)

....and the usual suspects spouting the same old bollocks on here.

It is an interesting debate to be had around the state of the Scottish economy in the event of Independence. However if the case is that the Scottish economy is too weak to support itself then why is that an argument for staying within the UK? Surely after 250 years of rule from London then the only way the Scottish economy is every to support itself is - as I believe others have said to "take back control"

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 17 2.35pm
worth a read. Unpicks the positives and negatives of Bitch Spawn of Blair's speech yesterday: [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jan 17 2.35pm

worth a read. Unpicks the positives and negatives of Bitch Spawn of Blair's speech yesterday:

[Link]

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chris123 hove actually 18 Jan 17 6.06pm
Originally posted by nickgusset worth a read. Unpicks the positives and negatives of Bitch Spawn of Blair's speech yesterday: [Link] You really are quite charming aren't you.
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hove actually 18 Jan 17 6.06pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

worth a read. Unpicks the positives and negatives of Bitch Spawn of Blair's speech yesterday:

[Link]

You really are quite charming aren't you.

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