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 Mapletree  Croydon 13 Feb 21 10.30pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
A quarter of the entire population being vaccinated apparently just isn't reassurance enough for some. Go figure! They rely on others to be vaccinated. Literally. They pretty much say they think there may be a danger so let others take it.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 21 10.34pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Now that may explain a lot I did 95. Gave up when I got a nipper. Also gave up racing bikes (Brands Hatch and Snetterton mainly). Children have a lot to answer for. My dad gave up racing speed boats for England when my sister came along too.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 13 Feb 21 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What the feck are you talking about? These vaccines have been more tested than any before. They are based on previous vaccine work for the earlier SARS virus, MERS and Ebola. And just letting idiots catch the virus is not an option.
It's not even worth discussing anything with you so closed minded and do not understand the subject just read bits from the internet or listening to media completely brainwashed.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Feb 21 10.39pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Maybe. The thing is the new strain is much much more virulent. We’ve seen that at work. You get almost no protection from any vaccine for two weeks and nowhere near full protection until after three. That three week period seems especially dangerous. We lost SEVEN residents out of 25 in one home in the course of a week. Simply awful. Mind you I didn’t sit down when I was vaccinated. It was so quick I barely touched the sides. Edited by Mapletree (13 Feb 2021 10.24pm) Wise. I'd touch nothing. I've heard that the jab lowers immune response for a period. There seems to be anecdotal evidence for that.
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BlueJay  UK 13 Feb 21 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
They rely on others to be vaccinated. Literally. They pretty much say they think there may be a danger so let others take it. Yes, they rely on others and imagine themselves to be 'in the know' or made of tougher stuff. In truth, they're the ones opting out of any sacrifice or allegiance to their fellow man. The easy way out.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 21 10.47pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
It's not even worth discussing anything with you so closed minded and do not understand the subject just read bits from the internet or listening to media completely brainwashed. Oh good. Please don’t But of course I do, as it is my job at which I am extremely good.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 21 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Wise. I'd touch nothing. I've heard that the jab lowers immune response for a period. There seems to be anecdotal evidence for that. If that is true I didn’t know it. I’ll look it up. And thanks for the heads up. Edited by Mapletree (13 Feb 2021 10.49pm)
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| BlueJay UK 13 Feb 21 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It seems to me that the biggest risk from the vaccine is actually going to get it. They are not wiping down seats or changing gloves between patients. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Feb 2021 10.20pm) Good point. It's a difficult subject to broach because clearly we don't want people getting scared to get the vaccine when there's already a fair amount of nonsense ideas about it already. With the pfizer vaccine it was routine for people to have to sit down for 15 minutes following being vaccinated in case of allergic reaction. It did occur to be that hundreds of people doing this a day is at least 'some' level of risk of you get unlucky, so who knows if this was a good tradeoff. I'm sure these places are well ventilated, but it's certainly a good idea to wear a n95 mask in such a situation in my view! Just to reiterate though, logically the above risk is still next to nothing compared to the massive benefit of 15 million people already being vaccinated.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 21 10.55pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Good point. It's a difficult subject to broach because clearly we don't want people getting scared to get the vaccine when there's already a fair amount of nonsense ideas about it already. With the pfizer vaccine it was routine for people to have to sit down for 15 minutes following being vaccinated in case of allergic reaction. It did occur to be that hundreds of people doing this a day is at least 'some' level of risk of you get unlucky, so who knows if this was a good tradeoff. I'm sure these places are well ventilated, but it's certainly a good idea to wear a n95 mask in such a situation in my view! Just to reiterate though, logically the above risk is still next to nothing compared to the massive benefit of 15 million people already being vaccinated. They sat in the open air and distanced No danger at all. I got bored and buggered off, told them I was a medic.
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| BlueJay UK 13 Feb 21 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
It's not even worth discussing anything with you so closed minded and do not understand the subject just read bits from the internet or listening to media completely brainwashed. It's a horrendous idea to try to dissuade people from being vaccinated is his point. Morally it almost becomes a duty to fend off comments like yours because they encourage people to avoid something that, if they're elderly or vulnerable especially, may well save their life. If your view is that we should hold off for a year or two until you're personally satisfied that it's safe, be aware that by that point your decision will have problem resulted in another 100k+ deaths. Being that there have been very few negatives at the 15 million vaccine mark, you should perhaps begin entertaining the idea that in all likelihood you're wrong and that your outlook endangers lives rather than saves them.
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| BlueJay UK 13 Feb 21 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
They sat in the open air and distanced No danger at all. That's what I'd do too I was mainly commenting of the experience of relatives. They waited inside but it was a fairly well ventilated area apparently. I just personally wouldn't have wanted to be hanging around! In and out!
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 14 Feb 21 2.18am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's a horrendous idea to try to dissuade people from being vaccinated is his point. Morally it almost becomes a duty to fend off comments like yours because they encourage people to avoid something that, if they're elderly or vulnerable especially, may well save their life. If your view is that we should hold off for a year or two until you're personally satisfied that it's safe, be aware that by that point your decision will have problem resulted in another 100k+ deaths. Being that there have been very few negatives at the 15 million vaccine mark, you should perhaps begin entertaining the idea that in all likelihood you're wrong and that your outlook endangers lives rather than saves them.
These people that are dying are already sick and vitamin d is very important yet they are very quiet on this. This field is my wifes specialty and her country has had very little deaths. Edited by grumpymort (14 Feb 2021 2.23am)
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