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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 8.27am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman [Tweet Link] Stock markets are like any other market in that the cost of the goods they offer are affected by supply and demand. So whether they rise or fall has nothing to do with what is good for the country but only whether people want to buy or sell and that depends on sentiment. If the expectation is that more will sell than buy they go down. People don't buy or sell because of what is good for the country but only what is good for them and that generally is based on second-guessing what others will do. Uncertainty causes nervousness which in turn causes a retreat to the certainty of hard assets. This, of itself, is enough to cause markets to shift and the herd follows. So to suggest that Trump good because economy good is just a little bit simplistic! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 8.27am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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Stock markets are like any other market in that the cost of the goods they offer are affected by supply and demand.

So whether they rise or fall has nothing to do with what is good for the country but only whether people want to buy or sell and that depends on sentiment. If the expectation is that more will sell than buy they go down. People don't buy or sell because of what is good for the country but only what is good for them and that generally is based on second-guessing what others will do. Uncertainty causes nervousness which in turn causes a retreat to the certainty of hard assets. This, of itself, is enough to cause markets to shift and the herd follows.

So to suggest that Trump good because economy good is just a little bit simplistic!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Oct 20 8.33am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Can I imagine Obama behaving in ways I don't like? Oh I don't know, I could reel of plenty of stuff Obama did that I found very appalling both in competence and in his personal politics....BLM in the white house...doing nothing with North Korea....continuing with bad trade deals for his country...increasing racial tensions....embarrassing the west with Iran...weakening the military...taking the EU's side...all to the minor stuff like getting rid of the Churchill bust from his office.....it just goes on. I remember him going to the Police funeral service after five Police had been shot by blacks and saying that the Police had to take some responsibility for it. Disgusting. But I grant that Obama is a more civil and better educated person....just less effective as a leader in the world of men that is most international politics and it showed with the lack of respect America's enemies treated him with....He once landed in China and they didn't even put out the red carpet for him...if that happened to Trump he'd probably fly off again....then again they just wouldn't do it. Biden was Obama's lackey but what stands behind him now makes Obama look like a social conservative. You keep referring to Trump pretending to be a 'Macho-man'. Why does masculinity, real or faked bother you? You are obsessed with his personality....You are too invested...if he wins god knows how you're going to take it. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 11.56pm) Call for another election of course One more point
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Beckenham 06 Oct 20 8.33am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Can I imagine Obama behaving in ways I don't like?

Oh I don't know, I could reel of plenty of stuff Obama did that I found very appalling both in competence and in his personal politics....BLM in the white house...doing nothing with North Korea....continuing with bad trade deals for his country...increasing racial tensions....embarrassing the west with Iran...weakening the military...taking the EU's side...all to the minor stuff like getting rid of the Churchill bust from his office.....it just goes on.

I remember him going to the Police funeral service after five Police had been shot by blacks and saying that the Police had to take some responsibility for it.

Disgusting.

But I grant that Obama is a more civil and better educated person....just less effective as a leader in the world of men that is most international politics and it showed with the lack of respect America's enemies treated him with....He once landed in China and they didn't even put out the red carpet for him...if that happened to Trump he'd probably fly off again....then again they just wouldn't do it.

Biden was Obama's lackey but what stands behind him now makes Obama look like a social conservative.

You keep referring to Trump pretending to be a 'Macho-man'. Why does masculinity, real or faked bother you? You are obsessed with his personality....You are too invested...if he wins god knows how you're going to take it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 11.56pm)

Call for another election of course

One more point

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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 06 Oct 20 8.37am
Originally posted by Mapletree Not in the quote above your post, where it is used in an appropriate fashion. So you must have been reading some of his other posts. Which is interesting as I just assumed it was a private conversation with Stirling. I read lots of posts, Maple; even yours, sometimes...
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Originally posted by Mapletree

Not in the quote above your post, where it is used in an appropriate fashion. So you must have been reading some of his other posts. Which is interesting as I just assumed it was a private conversation with Stirling.

I read lots of posts, Maple; even yours, sometimes...

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 8.37am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Can I imagine Obama behaving in ways I don't like? But I didn't say ways YOU don't like did I? Yet another distortion! I said like THIS. We already know he did loads of things you don't like You keep referring to Trump pretending to be a 'Macho-man'. Why does masculinity, real or faked bother you? You are obsessed with his personality....You are too invested...if he wins god knows how you're going to take it. Being Macho has nothing at all to do with simply being masculine! It is being masculine in an overly assertive or aggressive way. It's that attitude which is so objectionable and offensive. I am not "obsessed" with anything to do with Trump. I am concerned about the USA being led by someone like him and why so many still support him when it is so obvious to me, and billions of others, that he is totally unsuitable. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 11.56pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 8.37am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Can I imagine Obama behaving in ways I don't like?

But I didn't say ways YOU don't like did I? Yet another distortion! I said like THIS. We already know he did loads of things you don't like

Being Macho has nothing at all to do with simply being masculine! It is being masculine in an overly assertive or aggressive way. It's that attitude which is so objectionable and offensive. I am not "obsessed" with anything to do with Trump. I am concerned about the USA being led by someone like him and why so many still support him when it is so obvious to me, and billions of others, that he is totally unsuitable.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 11.56pm)

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Stirlingsays 06 Oct 20 9.05am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Being Macho has nothing at all to do with simply being masculine! It is being masculine in an overly assertive or aggressive way. It's that attitude which is so objectionable and offensive. I am not "obsessed" with anything to do with Trump. I am concerned about the USA being led by someone like him and why so many still support him when it is so obvious to me, and billions of others, that he is totally unsuitable. I'm sorry Wisbech but something tells me that you aren't really the reference for what masculinity is or isn't. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Oct 20 9.05am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I'm sorry Wisbech but something tells me that you aren't really the reference for what masculinity is or isn't.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 06 Oct 20 9.36am
Originally posted by Badger11 Call for another election of course Blame the Russians, you can hear him now
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Horsham 06 Oct 20 9.36am

Originally posted by Badger11

Call for another election of course

Blame the Russians, you can hear him now

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 1.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm sorry Wisbech but something tells me that you aren't really the reference for what masculinity is or isn't. In your boxed-in little world where every turn is to the right, and no social progressions have happened in the last 50 years, you probably think being a bully equals being masculine. I have never pondered my own masculinity. However, I am not the least bit aggressive. I avoid conflict and am a peacemaker between others. There are many aspects of personal behaviour that I believe to be important. Whether you are male or female really doesn't matter. Machismo attitudes are outdated echoes of the past. Rather than any kind of sign of strength, they are clear indications of a sense of insecurity. Wisdom, calmness, kindness and patience all seem very much more important characteristics for a man to possess than being macho. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 1.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm sorry Wisbech but something tells me that you aren't really the reference for what masculinity is or isn't.

In your boxed-in little world where every turn is to the right, and no social progressions have happened in the last 50 years, you probably think being a bully equals being masculine.

I have never pondered my own masculinity. However, I am not the least bit aggressive. I avoid conflict and am a peacemaker between others.

There are many aspects of personal behaviour that I believe to be important. Whether you are male or female really doesn't matter.

Machismo attitudes are outdated echoes of the past. Rather than any kind of sign of strength, they are clear indications of a sense of insecurity.

Wisdom, calmness, kindness and patience all seem very much more important characteristics for a man to possess than being macho.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 2.01pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Blame the Russians, you can hear him now No need. The FBI are already on the case:- [Tweet Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 20 2.01pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Blame the Russians, you can hear him now

No need. The FBI are already on the case:-

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Stirlingsays 06 Oct 20 3.43pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle In your boxed-in little world where every turn is to the right, and no social progressions have happened in the last 50 years, you probably think being a bully equals being masculine. I have never pondered my own masculinity. However, I am not the least bit aggressive. I avoid conflict and am a peacemaker between others. There are many aspects of personal behaviour that I believe to be important. Whether you are male or female really doesn't matter. Machismo attitudes are outdated echoes of the past. Rather than any kind of sign of strength, they are clear indications of a sense of insecurity. Wisdom, calmness, kindness and patience all seem very much more important characteristics for a man to possess than being macho. 'And the meek will inherit the earth'! You don't know what you're talking about. You're just a pussy cat....Well, perhaps less of an actual cat. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2020 3.44pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Oct 20 3.43pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In your boxed-in little world where every turn is to the right, and no social progressions have happened in the last 50 years, you probably think being a bully equals being masculine.

I have never pondered my own masculinity. However, I am not the least bit aggressive. I avoid conflict and am a peacemaker between others.

There are many aspects of personal behaviour that I believe to be important. Whether you are male or female really doesn't matter.

Machismo attitudes are outdated echoes of the past. Rather than any kind of sign of strength, they are clear indications of a sense of insecurity.

Wisdom, calmness, kindness and patience all seem very much more important characteristics for a man to possess than being macho.

'And the meek will inherit the earth'!

You don't know what you're talking about.

You're just a pussy cat....Well, perhaps less of an actual cat.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2020 3.44pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 06 Oct 20 3.50pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Stock markets are like any other market in that the cost of the goods they offer are affected by supply and demand. So whether they rise or fall has nothing to do with what is good for the country but only whether people want to buy or sell and that depends on sentiment. If the expectation is that more will sell than buy they go down. People don't buy or sell because of what is good for the country but only what is good for them and that generally is based on second-guessing what others will do. Uncertainty causes nervousness which in turn causes a retreat to the certainty of hard assets. This, of itself, is enough to cause markets to shift and the herd follows. So to suggest that Trump good because economy good is just a little bit simplistic! Some truth in that, although it's becoming less complex now. Mainly since the growing popularity of platforms like etoro and robinhood... the democratisation of stock investing has lead to more emotive, reactive swings based on day to day news rather than fundamentals. This will only increase as more and more plebs pile into click to buy stock platforms. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 06 Oct 20 3.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Stock markets are like any other market in that the cost of the goods they offer are affected by supply and demand.

So to suggest that Trump good because economy good is just a little bit simplistic!

Some truth in that, although it's becoming less complex now. Mainly since the growing popularity of platforms like etoro and robinhood... the democratisation of stock investing has lead to more emotive, reactive swings based on day to day news rather than fundamentals. This will only increase as more and more plebs pile into click to buy stock platforms.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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richard shaw (og)65 my minds eye 06 Oct 20 5.00pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Some truth in that, although it's becoming less complex now. Mainly since the growing popularity of platforms like etoro and robinhood... the democratisation of stock investing has lead to more emotive, reactive swings based on day to day news rather than fundamentals. This will only increase as more and more plebs pile into click to buy stock platforms. Accelerated by the highly aggressive and price sensitive Algo funds interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?" iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Accelerated by the highly aggressive and price sensitive Algo funds

interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?"
iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "

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Mapletree Croydon 06 Oct 20 5.06pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland I read lots of posts, Maple; even yours, sometimes... Here's one you can read Attachment: 45DC7C1B00000578-0-image-a-50_1509450538159.jpg (258.31Kb)
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