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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 30 Dec 18 8.02am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You’ll notice what we’ve achieved and how far we’ve come if or when we’re relegated. After 2 seasons, or probably 1, you wouldn’t think we’d even been in the premier league. That should be Parish’s measure of how good a chairman he’s been long term and at the end of his reign, rather than announcing himself as the best chairman and owner we’ve ever had. Build a stand before trying to claim that.

When and where did he announce himself as the the best chairman and owner we ever had, i must have missed it, or did you make it up?
The only other chairman who compares with Parish was Whaits, all the others were rubbish,

 

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 30 Dec 18 8.09am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

They had more money than us at Upton Park too. So does every club with bigger attendances.

They didn't spend much more than us when they were at Upton Park,Its as Eagle coupe said, its only when they got there free stadium and free policing and ground staff etc that they started spending the big bucks

 

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 30 Dec 18 8.15am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


True they did have more funds because of the owners who are much better business men then ours and willing to pump funds into the club.

attendances have nothing to do with it that is just a little extra on the side in the grand scheme of things.

Edited by grumpymort (29 Dec 2018 11.38pm)

Yeah, do you believe in Santa and the tooth fairy as well

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Dec 18 8.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

When and where did he announce himself as the the best chairman and owner we ever had, i must have missed it, or did you make it up?
The only other chairman who compares with Parish was Whaits, all the others were rubbish,

On Twitter. Ron Noades may have leeched money out of the club but he was successful and did actually build a stand. If Zaha had left us after a couple of years in the top flight we probably would’ve been relegated within 2 seasons just as we were when Wright left, and our promotion relied massively on Wilf.

If you can tell me how Parish has been so wonderful then I’m all ears. Sure we’re here for 6 years but it’s been done by having the 9th highest wage bill without having the 9th highest revenue, and to spend 8 months of the season precariously placed in the bottom 4. I don’t think you’ll struggle to find someone to be able to achieve that.

When Parish sets us up to be more than just high spenders that run out of money that further keeps us in trouble then I’ll see him as you do. Until then we’ve spent everything on high wages to stay here and haven’t built any foundations yet to make the club stronger and competitive once you remove the Prem money from the scene. But we have tried hiring a load of players from the 90/91 era to try and, as expected, without any experience, it doesn’t work.

I hope he cracks it eventually or someone with the right idea or mega money comes in because we’ll be back to 12th in the championship with 13,000 crowds before you know it. Zaha has to retire or leave some day. We’ve only had offers worth talking about for 3 players since we’ve been here. Zaha, Bolasie and Gayle. Murray we won’t mention. Incidentally that sale advised by Brighty, a 90/91 era advisor.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Dec 2018 9.05am)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Dec 18 9.03am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


True they did have more funds because of the owners who are much better business men then ours and willing to pump funds into the club.

attendances have nothing to do with it that is just a little extra on the side in the grand scheme of things.

Edited by grumpymort (29 Dec 2018 11.38pm)

You must be very frustrating in person. Do people walk away during conversations?

If bigger clubs have more muscle and spending power on transfers because their owners are ‘willing to pump funds into the club’ then they would never have bothered with anything other than outspending each other and you would’ve had more clubs winning the league than Liverpool for years and then Man Utd for years.

You would also have clubs always operating with huge losses because attendances mean nothing when they outspent Palace through the decades. What you’ve said is so stupid I’ll have to give you credit for it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Dec 2018 9.06am)

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 30 Dec 18 10.52am

Originally posted by steve1984

I would argue that treading water / mid table "mediocrity" is the holy grail for every club outside the big 5 or 6.

The only thing that can move a club from the treading water category into the top 6 is a foreign investor with silly money.

So unless that happens then we've already reached the promised land.

Not entirely accurate. Within my post I made a case for a Cortese model which I think is sustainable and can build trophy success and progressive league placements year after year.

At the moment we're only ever a season away from the drop. Not sustainable.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 30 Dec 18 10.54am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Please explain.

Check the link:
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The tin pot nature of the prezzer and associated quotes is still as unprofessional and cringeworthy today as it was 5 years ago.
Talk about being out of your depth! SP showed his level then.

 

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chateauferret Flag 30 Dec 18 11.32am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Check the link:
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The tin pot nature of the prezzer and associated quotes is still as unprofessional and cringeworthy today as it was 5 years ago.
Talk about being out of your depth! SP showed his level then.

I'm not sure how many points you get for a good presser. Remind me?

I think the less he says the better.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 30 Dec 18 12.02pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

I'm not sure how many points you get for a good presser. Remind me?

I think the less he says the better.

Well, top players looking for clubs aren't going to be attracted to palace on displays such as these, are they?

Easy translation to points.

 

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chateauferret Flag 30 Dec 18 2.30pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Well, top players looking for clubs aren't going to be attracted to palace on displays such as these, are they?

Easy translation to points.

Ah, so players deciding which club to sign for make their choices based on the press conferences. I see.

 


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TheArmaniCode Flag 30 Dec 18 2.55pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

Both are at fault but predominantly the board are wasting our potential as a club

Roy is a manager who is happy to accept mediocrity. That's why he doesn't make changes until it's too late - we're 6 points clear of the bottom three, so we can afford to lose this one. It doesn't really matter. But that's exactly why he was brought in.

Parish & co could not be making it plainer that 17th is OK. 17th is success in fact. And he's got a manager that is perfectly happy to play his part. Why do you think we played a reserve team against Championship Middlesbrough when a League Cup Quarter Final was up for grabs? (which ended up being at home to f***ing BURTON) Because that wasn't what was important to the club? Trophies? A cup run? Ha! Who cares? Perpetual mid table is a perfect alternative. What with all that TV money it'll bring in.

It goes as far as individual games too. As much as I loved our win against Man City, I feel like it makes our poor performances even more frustrating now we've proved what we're capable of. By contrast, Chelsea were poor today. We could easily have beaten a second top six side in as many weeks. Instead we leave our best attacking midfielder on the bench and play a winger up front. In the middle. On his own. Try and guess how that went? Second best for the entire 90 minutes. And it's not the first time we've created f*** all all games either. We are quite possibly the most boring side in the entire league. We wake up when dropping into the bottom three is on the line, after that it's straight back to sleep. Rinse and repeat until the end of the season.

And how do we plan on solving our striker problem? How do we plan on solving the one problem that's keeping us from pushing for a top half finish and possibly even Europe? Dominic Solanke, a kid with a whopping 1 goal his whole Premier League career. DO YOU EVER LEARN YOU IDIOTS!?

Bottomline, we have got no vision. Zero. "Just stay up and hope for the best". That's the closest thing we have to the plan. And that mindset will eventually lead to our demise. Zaha, Wan-Bissaka and the rest of our good players will leave in time, leaving us with the dregs. And then we'll sink like a stone. That's what happened to Sunderland. That's what happened to Wigan. That's what happened to Aston Villa. That's what happened to every single team that was happy to just be better than three teams every season. And unless we turn this sinking ship around, that's exactly what'll happen to us.

 

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zappata Flag 30 Dec 18 3.45pm Send a Private Message to zappata Add zappata as a friend

Whatever you say about our transfer activity or lack of,Roy is completely negative as a leader.

Against a chelsea side who haven't been playing well drops our only creative midfielder and plays a defender instead. So 5 defenders 2 defensive midfielders and a box to box cm,no striker and our only attacking players out of position.

Zaha will be gone at this rate a total waste of his talent and the other players must be finding it dull as dishwater.

 

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