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 Matov  14 Nov 23 2.54pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
In the final analysis, "Suicide Sunak" is an unelected PM, he was also not elected as leader of the party by the membership and he has just appointed an unelected Foreign Secretary. Furthermore his Chancellor, Health Secretary and Foreign Secretary are all EU loving "Remainers". Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 2.17pm) Well quite. Which I why I would not trust these b******s one little bit. As I have said, to the point of being tedious now I confess, but these t***s seem hell bent on losing the next GE and I reckon they will engineer a GE rather than stand aside for a leader who might actually give the Tories at least an outside chance of saving the day.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 14 Nov 23 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Well quite. Which I why I would not trust these b******s one little bit. As I have said, to the point of being tedious now I confess, but these t***s seem hell bent on losing the next GE and I reckon they will engineer a GE rather than stand aside for a leader who might actually give the Tories at least an outside chance of saving the day. Give the Tories a chance of saving the day? From who, the bloody Tories!? Edited by BrentisBack (14 Nov 2023 2.57pm)
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| Glazier#1 14 Nov 23 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I quote the words of Suella Braverman : “The British people are compassionate. We will always support those who are genuinely homeless. But we cannot allow our streets to be taken over by rows of tents occupied by people, many of them from abroad, living on the streets as a lifestyle choice.” She never asserted that ALL 'Rough sleepers" were doing so as a lifestyle choice and recognised there were those genuinely homeless who were worthy of support. Gov. Uk official figures: Table 3.3.1: Estimated number of people sleeping rough on a single night in autumn by nationality since 2017. Year UK EU Non-EU,Non UK Not Known Total Yes, there are a number of nonEU, Non UK but most are white , male and UK.
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 georgenorman 14 Nov 23 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
In the final analysis, "Suicide Sunak" is an unelected PM, he was also not elected as leader of the party by the membership and he has just appointed an unelected Foreign Secretary. Furthermore his Chancellor, Health Secretary and Foreign Secretary are all EU loving "Remainers". Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 2.17pm) It is also amusing that the unelected Foreign Secretary will be unable to vote in the next General Election as he is now a member of the House of Lords and they are debarred from voting along with the certified insane and imprisoned criminals. If Margret Thatcher had been buried rather than cremated, Sunak would have been more on a winner by having her dug up and strapped to the Front Bench à la El Cid.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Pretty sure the NHS hasn't gone from performing at it's peak ever performance in 2010 to being at total breaking point in 2023 based on a population increase of around 5 million. UK government pursued policies aimed at reducing the public sector net deficit and getting national debt to fall as a proportion of GDP.It was essential that public finances were brought under control but NHS spending was 'Ring-Fenced' and it did not suffer the cuts which affected other areas of the economy.
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 14 Nov 23 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Gov. Uk official figures: Table 3.3.1: Estimated number of people sleeping rough on a single night in autumn by nationality since 2017. Year UK EU Non-EU,Non UK Not Known Total Yes, there are a number of nonEU, Non UK but most are white , male and UK.
Because she's a scumbag right wing Tory who preys on her electorates base fears and predjudices and they lap her up for doing so. Obvious when you think about it.
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Teddy Eagle  14 Nov 23 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Because she's a scumbag right wing Tory who preys on her electorates base fears and predjudices and they lap her up for doing so. Obvious when you think about it. That's OK. Come back when you've thought about it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Nov 23 3.22pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Gov. Uk official figures: Table 3.3.1: Estimated number of people sleeping rough on a single night in autumn by nationality since 2017. Year UK EU Non-EU,Non UK Not Known Total Yes, there are a number of nonEU, Non UK but most are white , male and UK.
I have a a close lady friend who volunteers at a well known homeless charity. I asked her do they give out tents, apparently not. This is a complicated issue but the goal of her charity is to get people off the streets which they are very successful in doing. Some people for whatever reason choose to remain on the streets so by giving them a tent you are spending money enabling them rather then spending money supporting them as they come off the streets battle their personal problems and look for work. Other homeless charities may have a different view.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 3.23pm |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Because she's a scumbag right wing Tory who preys on her electorates base fears and predjudices and they lap her up for doing so. Obvious when you think about it. I could point to some "Scumbag left-wing" Labour politicians but I shall leave that for a separate discussion. Apropos Braverman, she is an august luminary who understands what the country thinks about migration and the concerns the country has about this issue. Sunak has made a grave mistake in removing her from office and his Cabinet re-shuffle has been the catalyst for droves of Conservative supporters defecting to Reform UK. Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 3.24pm)
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| Glazier#1 14 Nov 23 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
UK government pursued policies aimed at reducing the public sector net deficit and getting national debt to fall as a proportion of GDP.It was essential that public finances were brought under control but NHS spending was 'Ring-Fenced' and it did not suffer the cuts which affected other areas of the economy. No, I'm afraid that NHS is too 'public' and, as such, should be sacrificed on the altar of Tory dogma. It has been allowed to fall into disrepair by the Tory government, many of whom think that health should be private. Many in the health service had year upon year of cuts, more work, less staff until they were ground , ground down. COVID was the final nail in the coffin for many who just thought "I've had enough" and walked, not to be replaced. Well, those in government must be rubbing their hands (secretly, of course), seeing all these ads for private medicine and people forced to go down that route because they have no choice. And our (their) friends across the pond who are just chomping at the bit, waiting to pick up all those juicy contracts. Then we can all live like they do in the US. Excellent, right up the Conservative street. Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 3.34pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
No, I'm afraid that NHS is too 'public' and, as such, should be sacrificed on the altar of Tory dogma. It has been allowed to fall into disrepair by the Tory government, many of whom think that health should be private. Many in the health service had year upon year of cuts, more work, less staff until they were ground , ground down. COVID was the final nail in the coffin for many who just thought "I've had enough" and walked, not to be replaced. Well, those in government must be rubbing their hands (secretly, of course), seeing all these ads for private medicine and people forced to go down that route because they have no choice. And our (their) friends across the pond who are just chomping at the bit, waiting to pick up all those juicy contracts. Then we can all live like they do in the US. Excellent, right up the Conservative street. Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 3.34pm) I do not recognise this characterisation of the Conservative Party in terms of the comments concerning privatisation. On a personal level, I am a Conservative on the 'Right' of the party who does not deem privatisation a "Dirty word" unlike those on the 'Left'.
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| Glazier#1 14 Nov 23 4.01pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I do not recognise this characterisation of the Conservative Party in terms of the comments concerning privatisation. On a personal level, I am a Conservative on the 'Right' of the party who does not deem privatisation a "Dirty word" unlike those on the 'Left'. And there you go.
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