'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It must be difficult to make a valid comparisons I saw a black man who plead guilty to forging a tax disc get sentenced to 7 days in prison whilst a white man was giving a fine. The black man was young and had a string of previous violent offences whilst the white man was a pensioner who didn't.

On the day I think the judge got it right however as a statistic it probably didn't look good.

Edited by Badger11 (05 Jun 2020 5.33pm)

One more point

Could have been a peodophile, if so I have no problem with that

Even if it is a nonce it's unprofessional and unacceptable to hit the defenceless.

Apparently this is a counter to the video of the white guy being attacked.

It's a false equivalence and quite pathetic.

I'm quite confident that those wardens were sacked....lets here what happens to those thugs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 5.58pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

With murder or manslaughter typically only similar charges would be considered, and there would be unlikely to be any of those since this study related to young boys. That is perhaps they that was the demographic considered for the study. Here are the findings:

"Analysis of figures for 2009-17 shows one in four black teenage boys guilty of manslaughter were given maximum jail terms, while white children found guilty of the same crime were sentenced to no more than 10 years, with the majority getting less than four.

The new analysis shows that black teenagers guilty of homicide – of which there were 73 between 2009 and 2017 – were considerably more likely than their white counterparts to be convicted of murder, which always led to a life sentence.

The majority (52 per cent) of white teenagers in this cohort – of which there were 102 – were convicted of manslaughter, which usually led to a shorter jail term, while this applied to just 30 per cent of black children.

There were further discrepancies among the children convicted of manslaughter, with 23 per cent of those who were black sentenced to more than 10 years or life, while no white teenager was sentenced to more than a decade.

Five per cent of black children got less than four years, compared with more than half (51 per cent) of their white peers."

Accounting for any unknown factors, it still looks way out, as the sentences are starkly different through every gradient of conviction. At the same time I can't say I'm surprised. I think it's fair to point out when people are playing the victim, but at the same time there are aspects of life where people don't get fair treatment in comparison to others. You come across as reasonable and principled so I expect you get a sense of this anyway.

It stands on its own. The clip and article are a take on prison treatment based on race, which is most certainly a key component of the wider issue at hand. Take a point for what it is rather than trying to unnecessarily draw someone you claim not to want to talk to into to yet another entirely pointless argument. That certainly holds no interest to me, and I expect nobody else either.

Edited by BlueJay (05 Jun 2020 7.10pm)