And? 'Heart goes out to'? If your heart really does go out to, then is it too much too ask that you would wish for something to be done to alleviate this problem? 'Lifestyle choice' is just so not the answer, my friend. It is callous and certainly not apparent that anybody's heart is going anywhere.

Your comments on drug/alcohol issues are, simply, meaningless, Willo. I suppose you would advise total abstinence, then, would you? After all, if we never ever drank, there'd be no problem.

I hope your subs to the temperance league are up to date, mate lol.

Oh, just by the by, did your esteemed friend actually use the word 'many'?

And your answer to the 'Covenant Of Care' point?

In the end, are you agreeing with SB's overarching and simple statement that all homeless represent a 'lifestyle choice' or not?

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It's not a sweeping generalisation to suggest that people over the age of 75 aren't going to play a pivotal role in the future of this country, given that most people cark it within ten years of that age.

He's the first man to ever manage in the premier league at the rype old age of 76. And I would suggest that this incredible feat will be one that none of us will witness again in our lifetime. But I won't rubbish your point just because it is about a about as common as a total eclipse. There's a footballer in Japan who has ust retired at the age of 56. If Roy went out and started signing a few 56 year olds for Palace, we'd all come to the conclusion that he has finally taken leave of his senses.

There's no way of getting away from my argument that people with on average 5 years left to live(Going by the average age of death in the UK today) should be voting and effecting the lives of people with 60/50/40 years still to live. It's not fair in the slighest.

He's the first man to ever manage in the premier league at the rype old age of 76. And I would suggest that this incredible feat will be one that none of us will witness again in our lifetime. But I won't rubbish your point just because it is about a about as common as a total eclipse. There's a footballer in Japan who has ust retired at the age of 56. If Roy went out and started signing a few 56 year olds for Palace, we'd all come to the conclusion that he has finally taken leave of his senses.

There's no way of getting away from my argument that people with on average 5 years left to live(Going by the average age of death in the UK today) should be voting and effecting the lives of people with 60/50/40 years still to live. It's not fair in the slighest.

That's not the reason I said they shouldn't be allowed to vote. That was a side point which I made.
The reason I gave, is that people who will not be around in the near future, should not be voting towards decsions that they won't be around to see.

The best argument I have heard to this is that some have kids and Grandkids that they will want to vote for. But my argument to this is, that no one should share the same politics as their parents anyway. Unless they're a right miserable so an so.

As long as voting all your life has got you want you want or at least given you the chance to vote on what you want. Then it shouldn't really matter what is going on in your twighlight years.