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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 14 Nov 23 12.34pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
That's another interesting view and definitely makes sense in part. Where do you draw the line as to who should vote after you’ve dispensed with the seventy year olds? Women? Let’s face it for one month in four they can be a bit ‘unbalanced’, and possibly unable to make a reasoned choice!
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Glazier#1 14 Nov 23 12.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am relaying the information from a learned gentleman who is involved in a Foodbank in the West Country and he is reporting about the situation in his area.He is not one prone to exaggeration or hyperbole. I suspect this is reflected in other parts of the country as well with those choosing to continue with their lifestyle for the reasons I have highlighted. In the final anaysis the use of drugs before it becomes an addiction is a lifestyle choice as is the imbibing of alcohol before one is categorised as an alcoholic. My grasp of realities does extend to accept that there are of course those whose "Rough sleeping" is a result of sad circumstances not related to any addictions and my heart goes out to those in this category. Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 12.23pm) And? 'Heart goes out to'? If your heart really does go out to, then is it too much too ask that you would wish for something to be done to alleviate this problem? 'Lifestyle choice' is just so not the answer, my friend. It is callous and certainly not apparent that anybody's heart is going anywhere. Your comments on drug/alcohol issues are, simply, meaningless, Willo. I suppose you would advise total abstinence, then, would you? After all, if we never ever drank, there'd be no problem. I hope your subs to the temperance league are up to date, mate lol. Oh, just by the by, did your esteemed friend actually use the word 'many'? And your answer to the 'Covenant Of Care' point? In the end, are you agreeing with SB's overarching and simple statement that all homeless represent a 'lifestyle choice' or not? Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.36pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.45pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.46pm)
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BrentisBack Beckenham 14 Nov 23 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am relaying the information from a learned gentleman who is involved in a Foodbank in the West Country and he is reporting about the situation in his area.He is not one prone to exaggeration or hyperbole. I suspect this is reflected in other parts of the country as well with those choosing to continue with their lifestyle for the reasons I have highlighted. In the final anaysis the use of drugs before it becomes an addiction is a lifestyle choice as is the imbibing of alcohol before one is categorised as an alcoholic. Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 12.23pm) I'm sorry Willo but you're tlking absolute nonsense here. Understandable as you're of a certain vintage and most of said vintage believe that"druggies" or "drunks" have a choice in their addiction. Addiction is in the most part trauma related and is in no way a lifestyle choice. I've included an interview below with THE leading voice in addiction, Dr Gabor Mate' to have a listen to. Do have a listen and maybe even have a read of some his books. He's a great man who has dedicted his life to helping the addicted.
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BrentisBack Beckenham 14 Nov 23 12.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Where do you draw the line as to who should vote after you’ve dispensed with the seventy year olds? Women? Let’s face it for one month in four they can be a bit ‘unbalanced’, and possibly unable to make a reasoned choice! All suggestions in the hat.
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Teddy Eagle 14 Nov 23 12.42pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
All suggestions in the hat. How about everyone in Beckenham? Middle class poshos obviously can't be trusted.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 12.47pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
I'm sorry Willo but you're tlking absolute nonsense here. Understandable as you're of a certain vintage and most of said vintage believe that"druggies" or "drunks" have a choice in their addiction. Addiction is in the most part trauma related and is in no way a lifestyle choice. I've included an interview below with THE leading voice in addiction, Dr Gabor Mate' to have a listen to. Do have a listen and maybe even have a read of some his books. He's a great man who has dedicted his life to helping the addicted. With respect you are of the mistaken belief that those of a certain vintage have taken leave of their senses due to the passage of time.I have filed your comments under 'Infelicitous'. The advancement of years brings experience and knowledge and exposure to various facets of life and I know many of my generation who are sage like in their thinking, weathered in the ways of the world and people of erudition and wisdom.
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Glazier#1 14 Nov 23 12.53pm | |
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Eagerly awaiting your erudite response to my previous post, old fellow.
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BrentisBack Beckenham 14 Nov 23 12.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How about everyone in Beckenham? Middle class poshos obviously can't be trusted. I'd say Beckenham is a mixed bag. Lots of working class folk here and the ones you might determine as poshos are working class folk who have done well for themsleves. There's also a smatter of folk who have moved in from the likes of Clapham and Dulwich having sold their flats in those areas to upgrade and buy a house here too. The original demographic from my memory were a load of folk from Bermondsey and other inner SE London who moved out to get out of the inner city and get more bang got heir buck. Anyway, enough about me. Where do you live so that we can make some sweeping generalisations about you? Edited by BrentisBack (14 Nov 2023 1.00pm)
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Teddy Eagle 14 Nov 23 1.02pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
I'd say Beckenham is a mixed bag. Lots of working class folk here and the ones you might determine as poshos are working class folk who have done well for themsleves. There's also a smatter of folk who have moved in from the likes of Clapham and Dulwich having sold their flats in those areas to upgrade and buy a house here too. The original demographic from my memory were a load of folk from Bermondsey and other inner SE London who moved out to get out of the inner city and get more bang got heir buck. Anyway, enough about me. Where do you live so that we can make some sweeping generalisations about you? Ah, I see. Sweeping generalisations are fine for everyone over a certain age though.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 1.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
And? 'Heart goes out to'? If your heart really does go out to, then is it too much too ask that you would wish for something to be done to alleviate this problem? 'Lifestyle choice' is just so not the answer, my friend. It is callous and certainly not apparent that anybody's heart is going anywhere. Your comments on drug/alcohol issues are, simply, meaningless, Willo. I suppose you would advise total abstinence, then, would you? After all, if we never ever drank, there'd be no problem. I hope your subs to the temperance league are up to date, mate lol. Oh, just by the by, did your esteemed friend actually use the word 'many'? And your answer to the 'Covenant Of Care' point? In the end, are you agreeing with SB's overarching and simple statement that all homeless represent a 'lifestyle choice' or not? Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.36pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.45pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (14 Nov 2023 12.46pm) I reiterate my previous comments : "..sad circumstances not related to any addictions and my heart goes out to those in this category". I have accepted that there are those who have suffered extreme trauma with the resultant effect that they do not live with a roof over their heads and of course I welcome all the assistance they receive. Finally, my esteemed friend did mention that many could avail of the shelters but choose not to for the reasons I have mentioned. Edited by Willo (14 Nov 2023 1.24pm)
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Nov 23 1.05pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
That's another interesting view and definitely makes sense in part. I think you're wrong, but you clearly believe this because you yourself are unable to see the other side of the coin. In your opinion then, Roy Hodgson is trusted to managed a Premier League football club at the age of 76, but would not be able to vote if you had your way.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 23 1.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Eagerly awaiting your erudite response to my previous post, old fellow. These comments have reminded me of the exchange between Piers Morgan and Jeremy Corbyn whereby Piers asked him FIFTEEN times if Hamas was a terrorist organisation and Corbyn refused to assert they were in this category. This was a man that Starmer backed to the hilt and served under him in the Shadow Cabinet.
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