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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jun 20 11.35am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh I lost that job immediately as a result of the Brexit vote. The Americans moved it to Ireland. Same happened to lots of people.

Sorry to here that but at least you found something else despite of Brexit

Edited by Spiderman (05 Jun 2020 11.36am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 05 Jun 20 11.37am

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC at it again

[Link]

"There were highs, as when he, as a teenager in Houston, played American football for the 1992 Texas state champion runners-up Yates High School Lions.

There were lows, as when he was arrested for robbery in 2007 and served five years in prison.""

The man was a violent career criminal who went to jail on multiple occasions for violent drug related crimes.


They don't exactly make him sound like Mother Theresa so I think they offer a fair assessment.

Plus when anyone dies, whoever they are, especially in such horrendous circumstances, it's natural not to paint them in a totally horrendous light.

He died because of Derek Chauvin's character. Not his own.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jun 20 11.39am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman


No hypocrisy here then

Apparently her "ex-employers" do a lot of work for Help for Heroes and the founder is an ex-serviceman and Special Constable. She was happy to take his money!
Her name suggests possible Arabic Heritage, wonder if she criticises that region?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jun 20 11.46am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

They don't exactly make him sound like Mother Theresa so I think they offer a fair assessment.

Plus when anyone dies, whoever they are, especially in such horrendous circumstances, it's natural not to paint them in a totally horrendous light.

He died because of Derek Chauvin's character. Not his own.

Me and her indoors have been discussing this in great detail, considering we are regular visitors to the US.
I am in no way condoning the actions of the Officer and he will, presumably, be punished accordingly. However, to be a serving Police Officer in a country where carrying guns is a common occurence, you must go to work everyday thinking "I may get shot today", so mentally this must play on your mind and affect them psychologically, a bit like troops in Afghanistan/Iraq. Troops get R&R after approx 6 months, maybe these Police Officers need the same. Do they get regular psychological assessments or counselling? I don't know, again just thoughts not condoning his actions

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 05 Jun 20 11.46am

Two of three cops charged with aiding and abetting George Floyd's death were rookies with just four days on the force [Link]

Derek Chauvin was said to be training at least one officer, so it's reasonable to expect he would feel he didn't have the authority to question a 19 year veteran. The argument could be made that it's difficult to stand up to someone in authority after just days on the job. Plus Chauvin would've been able to terminate their employment in the probationary period. They were s*** out of luck getting saddled with this guy to "train" them but I can see it benefiting them at trial.

Edited by BlueJay (05 Jun 2020 11.46am)

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jun 20 11.47am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tom will be getting it out about now.

Does he ever put it away?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Jun 20 11.49am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Two of three cops charged with aiding and abetting George Floyd's death were rookies with just four days on the force [Link]

Derek Chauvin was said to be training at least one officer, so it's reasonable to expect he would feel he didn't have the authority to question a 19 year veteran. The argument could be made that it's difficult to stand up to someone in authority after just days on the job. Plus Chauvin would've been able to terminate their employment in the probationary period. They were s*** out of luck getting saddled with this guy to "train" them but I can see it benefiting them at trial.

Edited by BlueJay (05 Jun 2020 11.46am)

Heard this today, I have a great deal of sympathy for the 2 rookies. Agree totally with your post and hope they are fairly treated, bearing in mind they have already lost their jobs and may find it difficult to get re-employed or even stay in the locality

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 11.56am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Case closed.

Oh that job lol. The one I haven’t referred to the past 12 hours.

 


COYP

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BlueJay Flag UK 05 Jun 20 11.57am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Heard this today, I have a great deal of sympathy for the 2 rookies. Agree totally with your post and hope they are fairly treated, bearing in mind they have already lost their jobs and may find it difficult to get re-employed or even stay in the locality

Agreed. They're not blameless, but they essentially put their faith in someone elses hands, and he royally f***ed things up for them. Hopefully they will get an opportunity to rebuild their lives.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 05 Jun 20 11.57am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tom will be getting it out about now.

Already out Rudi

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 11.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Sorry to here that but at least you found something else despite of Brexit

Edited by Spiderman (05 Jun 2020 11.36am)

Agreed.

 


COYP

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BlueJay Flag UK 05 Jun 20 11.59am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Me and her indoors have been discussing this in great detail, considering we are regular visitors to the US.
I am in no way condoning the actions of the Officer and he will, presumably, be punished accordingly. However, to be a serving Police Officer in a country where carrying guns is a common occurence, you must go to work everyday thinking "I may get shot today", so mentally this must play on your mind and affect them psychologically, a bit like troops in Afghanistan/Iraq. Troops get R&R after approx 6 months, maybe these Police Officers need the same. Do they get regular psychological assessments or counselling? I don't know, again just thoughts not condoning his actions


I totally agree about your mindset point. In a nation awash with guns, fight or flight can no doubt kick in. As a cop that then becomes the entire job at hand really; accurately assessing risk. Some can no doubt do that very well, others may well escalate nothing situations to a worrying or even fatal place. It also leaves the door open for a small percentage of the wrong kind of people to enter the police force knowing that they can be excessively forceful in the role and apply plausible deniability to their actions. The commendable brotherhood aspect embedded into this kind of risky job, unfortunately also often protects the bad apples.

 

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