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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 04 Jan 17 3.04pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Sir Ivan has seen correctly IMO that his future is to be blamed by Mrs.May and her gang of 4 he will be the scapegoat as no brexit will be satisfactory. Better to get out and have a life. What are you on ????
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matt_himself Matataland 04 Jan 17 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
What are you on ???? I reckon he is on a traditional Glaswegian diet of 'Jellies', 'a ten pound bag of brown' and 'Bucky'.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jan 17 4.12pm | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I reckon he is on a traditional Glaswegian diet of 'Jellies', 'a ten pound bag of brown' and 'Bucky'. I think that, for him, punctuation is just something that happened to other people.
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Jan 17 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No I voted for Mrs.Thatcher twice. probably on the same ballot paper in crayon.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jan 17 4.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Was he balls Kermit.... he wanted to influence matters to pursue his own agenda for continuation of the single market which aint gonna happen! Too an extent, maybe, but it is a fact that brexit isn't going to be easy or simple, but rather long winded and complex, and not necessarily 'resolve all the problems' people think it will, and of course come with consequences. The problem seems to me, that both sides are increasingly driven by their ideological points, rather than dealing with the pragmatic reality that disentanglement from the EU won't be easy (or impossible) and will have consequences (and benefits) some of which won't be predictable or even knowable in the short or medium term. Personally, it looks more like two different groups of people arguing over what type of chair looks better on the deck of the Titanic.
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steeleye20 Croydon 04 Jan 17 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Too an extent, maybe, but it is a fact that brexit isn't going to be easy or simple, but rather long winded and complex, and not necessarily 'resolve all the problems' people think it will, and of course come with consequences. The problem seems to me, that both sides are increasingly driven by their ideological points, rather than dealing with the pragmatic reality that disentanglement from the EU won't be easy (or impossible) and will have consequences (and benefits) some of which won't be predictable or even knowable in the short or medium term. Personally, it looks more like two different groups of people arguing over what type of chair looks better on the deck of the Titanic. IDS was on the news today giving forth about the resignation at length he actually finished with 'of course it depends on how the civil service is to work in future.' Must be a brutal job being a brexit negotiator.
Edited by steeleye20 (04 Jan 2017 4.55pm)
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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 04 Jan 17 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
What are you on ???? I'm wondering what you're on - seems pretty straightforward to me. He's just pointing out his view that Rogers believes he will be made a scapegoat for the problems that occur with the Brexit process. So he is leaving. Not that hard is it?
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jan 17 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Too an extent, maybe, but it is a fact that brexit isn't going to be easy or simple, but rather long winded and complex, and not necessarily 'resolve all the problems' people think it will, and of course come with consequences. The problem seems to me, that both sides are increasingly driven by their ideological points, rather than dealing with the pragmatic reality that disentanglement from the EU won't be easy (or impossible) and will have consequences (and benefits) some of which won't be predictable or even knowable in the short or medium term. Personally, it looks more like two different groups of people arguing over what type of chair looks better on the deck of the Titanic. We need to sack the men who allowed the fire to slowly burn under the passengers feet. The fire in this metaphor being the self serving drive toward globalisation and the disastrous effects of mass migration that comes with it. Hopefully it won't come too late this time.
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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 04 Jan 17 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Was he balls Kermit.... he wanted to influence matters to pursue his own agenda for continuation of the single market which aint gonna happen! Hoof, can you accept that not everyone is motivated by their own agenda? Someone can think that Brexit is not a great idea, that doesn't make them some kind of pariah. Especially one who has spent time in the Brussels machinery and likely know how complicated the whole thing is going to be.
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legaleagle 04 Jan 17 6.01pm | |
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and you know what,Hoof? It could even be that that "someone" is rigth and knows what they are talking about(cue collective splutters)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jan 17 6.17pm | |
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Just heard that Le Pen aren't going to push for an EU exit but still want to be able to control borders. Could it be that a right-wing anti establishment backlash leading to the break up of the EU is pie in the sky wishful thinking? Reckon what's happening in th UK regarding an EU exit may be putting others with the same ideas off.
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chris123 hove actually 04 Jan 17 6.27pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Just heard that Le Pen aren't going to push for an EU exit but still want to be able to control borders. Could it be that a right-wing anti establishment backlash leading to the break up of the EU is pie in the sky wishful thinking? Reckon what's happening in th UK regarding an EU exit may be putting others with the same ideas off. Source?
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