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 Badger11  Beckenham 29 Dec 23 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Within the FBI it is common knowledge that certain areas are definitialy pro-Trump and will act accordingly but the top jobs are primarily Biden affliated. With the FBI's role in January 6th, when they actively provoked the situation, the key to understanding this. I believe Trump already has his own security, as well at that provided based on his previous Presidential role and that the FBI are not involved in how that is staffed or run but if I was Trump I would be ramping up the protection. A lot of senior people in the US have a lot to fear, and rightly so, Trump getting back into the Whitehouse. I thought protection for Presidents and ex Presidents was provided by the Secret service and not the FBI as a matter of course?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 3.54pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Within the FBI it is common knowledge that certain areas are definitialy pro-Trump and will act accordingly but the top jobs are primarily Biden affliated. With the FBI's role in January 6th, when they actively provoked the situation, the key to understanding this. I believe Trump already has his own security, as well at that provided based on his previous Presidential role and that the FBI are not involved in how that is staffed or run but if I was Trump I would be ramping up the protection. A lot of senior people in the US have a lot to fear, and rightly so, Trump getting back into the Whitehouse. The FBI is neither pro or anti Trump. They are pro USA. If they know he is a genuine threat then anything is possible. For sure Trump has his own protection but it could not stop a serious attempt on his life. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I thought protection for Presidents and ex Presidents was provided by the Secret service and not the FBI as a matter of course? It is, but I bet he doesn’t trust it and employs others to watch and supplement them.
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cryrst  The garden of England 29 Dec 23 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That lady has been delegated the responsibility to take such decisions. It’s not her fault that we are uncharted territory because of the unique circumstances that Trump has delivered. She is just doing her job. No one is in a position to control that so I very much doubt if anyone else has spoken to her. I also doubt many Democrats are too pleased though as it works against them. Only those who themselves are willing to interfere in democracy imagine that everyone does it. Remember one of Trump’s golden rules is to accuse your opponents of that you are guilty of. This is a coordinated campaign to divert attention from what he has done and establish him as a martyr. I’m not fooled by it. Nor should anyone else here be for we can view this from a distance without being personally involved. What unique circumstances has trump delivered ?
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 23 4.54pm |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 4.55pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What unique circumstances has trump delivered ? There has never before been a candidate for President, let alone one who is the front runner to be a party’s nominee, who has been indicted for causing an insurrection. Trump delivered that through his actions we all saw prior to Jan 6th. Actions that may be yet held not to be the cause of the insurrection but nevertheless occurred. If Trump wasn’t the President then, or a candidate now, none of this would be happening. It’s unique to him.
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 23 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There has never before been a candidate for President, let alone one who is the front runner to be a party’s nominee, who has been indicted for causing an insurrection. Trump delivered that through his actions we all saw prior to Jan 6th. Actions that may be yet held not to be the cause of the insurrection but nevertheless occurred. If Trump wasn’t the President then, or a candidate now, none of this would be happening. It’s unique to him. So he’s accused of it, not guilty of it. Is that how you see it ?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 5.04pm |
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No election official judges anyone of anything. So to accuse Ms Bellows of finding Trump guilty of insurrection is pure political spin. Don’t fall for it like the gullible do in the USA. Her job is to decide if the candidates meet the proscribed criteria. In her view Trump doesn’t so she ruled against him, whilst acknowledging that the USSC would be the final arbiter. She did her job. Anything else is diversionary political froth.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So he’s accused of it, not guilty of it. Is that how you see it ? Unless and until he is found guilty, yes, but it doesn’t look good for him given what’s in plain view or the efforts being made to delay the trial until after the election, when it could no longer be heard if he won. That’s why most States have not thrown him off the ballot, but 2 have decided, on the prima facie evidence, that he isn’t a qualified candidate.
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| cryrst The garden of England 29 Dec 23 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No election official judges anyone of anything. So to accuse Ms Bellows of finding Trump guilty of insurrection is pure political spin. Don’t fall for it like the gullible do in the USA. Her job is to decide if the candidates meet the proscribed criteria. In her view Trump doesn’t so she ruled against him, whilst acknowledging that the USSC would be the final arbiter. She did her job. Anything else is diversionary political froth. So one person decides who millions are allowed to vote for. If trump is that bad, the public would decide and not vote for him. Ironically; you wissie have also made a one person decision. All trump voters are thickos who don’t have a clue!
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 23 5.19pm |
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Around 70 million people voted for Trump. The Democrats are not democrats.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 23 8.03pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So one person decides who millions are allowed to vote for. If trump is that bad, the public would decide and not vote for him. Ironically; you wissie have also made a one person decision. All trump voters are thickos who don’t have a clue! That’s what state level secretaries of state do in the USA! It’s their way of keeping undesirables off the ballot. Without this you could have a huge list of people seeking publicity for weird ideas. We do by demanding a deposit which is forfeited unless 5% of the votes are secured. This won’t damage Trump at all. It will benefit him. He was never going to win there, it almost will be overturned and the publicity is very helpful. Not all Trump voters are thickos! Just as those who oppose him aren’t all not. The point being made is that there are many there gullible enough to believe Trump’s rhetoric.
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