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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jun 20 8.19am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He's not stupid.

It's about worldview and what kind of world you think works both in practicality and what you feel communion with.

It's also about money....so essentially self interest, which changes perspective significantly.

I can safely say that none of my views benefit me financially....it's purely based upon the future for my children.

My views don’t benefit me financially that I am aware. Although it would be naive to think your views weren’t formed according to life experience. I post most often on things of which I have experience. Most of my experience in life ended up positive, albeit I’ve had scary moments. So I try to share my passion. But more importantly my children are at the point where it is they that drive my thinking. I look forward to when your boys do that for you Stirling.

 

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Matov Flag 05 Jun 20 8.36am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


But that is how it works in America now. Law enforcement is very very local and the police are controlled by the local politicians.

Edited by Badger11 (05 Jun 2020 7.15am)

And this is the massive disconnect in all this BLM hysteria. Democrats dominate in almost every city where there is trouble. They control the entire range of Governance. The solution is in their hands. And yet nothing.

Instead, all whiteys fault. And mainly dead whiteys. We are the only group for whom not only collective guilt is acceptable but historical collective guilt as well. State sanctioned even.

The Left is morally corrupt. Unable to accept even a shred of responsibility for their role in encouraging utter chaos to take hold. They are toxic. As simple as that. Threatening to poison society for nothing more than a buzz trip.

All they offer is more state control, more taxation and more excusing utterly s*** behaviour. And all whilst convincing themselves they live on the moral high ground.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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dannyboy1978 Flag 05 Jun 20 8.45am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

And this is the massive disconnect in all this BLM hysteria. Democrats dominate in almost every city where there is trouble. They control the entire range of Governance. The solution is in their hands. And yet nothing.

Instead, all whiteys fault. And mainly dead whiteys. We are the only group for whom not only collective guilt is acceptable but historical collective guilt as well. State sanctioned even.

The Left is morally corrupt. Unable to accept even a shred of responsibility for their role in encouraging utter chaos to take hold. They are toxic. As simple as that. Threatening to poison society for nothing more than a buzz trip.

All they offer is more state control, more taxation and more excusing utterly s*** behaviour. And all whilst convincing themselves they live on the moral high ground.

If any good has come from the Floyd murder is alot of people are learning more about the black community and the left.

The left are fueling race divide
Blacks are taking the bait.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (05 Jun 2020 8.47am)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jun 20 8.53am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

My views don’t benefit me financially that I am aware. Although it would be naive to think your views weren’t formed according to life experience. I post most often on things of which I have experience. Most of my experience in life ended up positive, albeit I’ve had scary moments. So I try to share my passion. But more importantly my children are at the point where it is they that drive my thinking. I look forward to when your boys do that for you Stirling.


I remember you saying on here that you had a personal financial stake in the 'remain' position.

As for my children, they very much drive my thinking as does my understanding of human nature.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 8.55am)

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 05 Jun 20 8.56am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Wrong thread

Edited by dannyboy1978 (05 Jun 2020 8.56am)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 8.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


I think we need to let local areas decide what level of policing they require. The technology exists now to allow for far more local democracy to take place on a postcode by postcode basis.

So if the majority of people in a specific area do not want any stop & search, then so be it. In fact if they want no policing at all, who is somebody who lives outside that area to interfere? Make the response to crime far more sensitive to the level of policing desired by the local community. Then the police can truly be thought of as having the local community support.

It is clear that a one-size fits all approach is not working so let's try and ensure that people have more input into the process.

After all who does not want more community involvement in such matters?


I like your theory but voters inside London might not vote for stop and search.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jun 20 9.00am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I like your theory but voters inside London might not vote for stop and search.

That's democracy.

Those that don't like what comes from that can then move to areas that believe in effective policing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 9.01am)

 


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Matov Flag 05 Jun 20 9.04am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

If any good has come from the Floyd murder is alot of people are learning more about the black community and the left.

The left are fueling race divide
Blacks are taking the bait.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (05 Jun 2020 8.47am)

For me, I see the left as actually the ones doing most harm to urban black communities. Essentially they want to keep them poor and downtrodden. Encourage s*** behaviour, destroy the structure of traditional families. If you look at the rates of marriage amongst the African American population in the 50's I believe they were higher than white Americans. Less rates and divorce. Then came the 60's and the drugs and it all went tits up from there.

The Right promote people living boring, stable lives. Get married, raise your kids right, pay your tax and enjoy your lives. What do the Left promote now? Rutt like dogs in the street, smash s*** up if you don't like something and if you do try to do things legitimately,tax the hell out of by way of punishment.

Should George Floyd have lost his life due to that incident? Then clearly not. But the man was a convicted criminal. On drugs. Not a good role model to anybody. Yet he is now eulogised as a Martyr. That is the bit that throws me with all the knee bending and metaphorical tugging of forelocks going on amongst the wider white global populations (and this collective guilt encompasses the entire world supposedly). This is not the hill to die on.

It is a form of mass hysteria. No other way of seeing it. And a madness that exists within the very structure of Government. Only going to be ratcheted up and up and for what ultimate purpose?


 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 9.05am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Jun 2020 9.07am)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 9.06am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Just listen to these people. Well done for ignoring them.

That blonde middle class lady bothering and questioning the young adults cleaning the Earl Haig memorial with ‘’EXCUSE ME, what have your done with all the vandalism’’ has been identified on Twitter. Oh dear. The people who had to say cheese to the young black girl’s camera phone people are proud of but the jumped liberal elite white woman is embarrassed to the point she’s deleted all her social media and her company claim they sacked her in February, even though there’s photos and contact details of her still on their website. They’ve now removed all of it. Oh and the photos of her circulating would get a ‘would’ on here all round.

 


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Matov Flag 05 Jun 20 9.07am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's democracy.

Those that don't like what comes from that can then move to areas that believe in effective policing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 9.01am)

Absolutely. And I have a sneaking suspicion that if voters were offered a choice on the style of policing they desire, the results might not be quite what the Left would anticipate. The silent majority is not all white.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Jun 20 9.08am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's democracy.

Those that don't like what comes from that can then move to areas that believe in effective policing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2020 9.01am)

I think they already have.

 


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