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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Mar 23 9.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Claiming the source is the all-important factor makes it too easy to ignore inconvenient truths. As does dismissing facts until they're reported by the BBC. Not in any way. What it does is sound a warning bell so that an objective assessment of what is being claimed can be made. The inconvenient truth that is often then revealed, that is the claim has much more to do with a conclusion seeking evidence, than evidence leading to a conclusion.
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Teddy Eagle 30 Mar 23 9.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not in any way. What it does is sound a warning bell so that an objective assessment of what is being claimed can be made. The inconvenient truth that is often then revealed, that is the claim has much more to do with a conclusion seeking evidence, than evidence leading to a conclusion. And how is that assessment to be made without the evidence being presented?
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steeleye20 Croydon 30 Mar 23 10.19pm | |
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Haven't been active on this thread but caught this today:-
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 9.12am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And how is that assessment to be made without the evidence being presented? The "evidence" was presented, and I haven't argued it ought not be. Only that if it is that it needs to be put in its proper context. Who is presenting it and why they might be doing it are legitimate questions that help establish that context and raise further questions about the validity of the "evidence".
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Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 23 4.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The "evidence" was presented, and I haven't argued it ought not be. Only that if it is that it needs to be put in its proper context. Who is presenting it and why they might be doing it are legitimate questions that help establish that context and raise further questions about the validity of the "evidence". Still confirmation bias.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Still confirmation bias. There is no bias involved when it's the obvious, demonstrable, unequivocal, truth. It's the same with the example above. Trying to build a mountain out of nothing more than what that letter says leaves no room for any doubt.
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Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 23 4.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is no bias involved when it's the obvious, demonstrable, unequivocal, truth. It's the same with the example above. Trying to build a mountain out of nothing more than what that letter says leaves no room for any doubt. Not when it confirms your bias, no.
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georgenorman 31 Mar 23 4.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is no bias involved when it's the obvious, demonstrable, unequivocal, truth. It's the same with the example above. Trying to build a mountain out of nothing more than what that letter says leaves no room for any doubt. It's like trying to debate with a Jehovah's Witness!
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Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 23 8.33pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Haven't been active on this thread but caught this today:- Indeed. Cases like this.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 10.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not when it confirms your bias, no. I have biases, of course I do. We all do. But not when it comes to Trump. The character of the man is there in plain sight. There is no attempt at deception. If anyone claims not to see it then I think they are lying, if not to us, then to themselves.
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Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 23 10.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have biases, of course I do. We all do. But not when it comes to Trump. The character of the man is there in plain sight. There is no attempt at deception. If anyone claims not to see it then I think they are lying, if not to us, then to themselves. So the motivation behind anti-Trump rhetoric is perfectly acceptable.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 23 10.30pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It's like trying to debate with a Jehovah's Witness! I politely refuse to ever debate with a JW. If you truly believe that my attitude resembles a JW I suggest you adopt a similar strategy. I won't be offended, just as I am sure the JWs aren't with me. I have absolutely no wish to try to convert someone as intransigent as you are. Someone who, despite patient and detailed explanation, refuses to acknowledge the even most basic of facts. You are a lost cause. So don't "debate" with me. I will continue to post observations on any spurious claims, but you have no need to join in.
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