You’ve completely forgotten about the police bending the knee in the summer and Cressida Dick and Sadiq Khan getting heavy criticism for it all. No, it’s just about their teammates getting some flack, or a criminal in another country, or an American footballer, or something.

What a load of nonsense. Display zero tolerance of racism in a football stadium because you’re on someone’s property, and change a few worthwhile things in society, but no thanks to subservient gestures, especially with what happened in the summer. I wouldn’t expect anyone to do it for any reason in my company and neither would I. And it’s no surprise of the politics of the BBS idiots condoning the vandalism on London’s historical heroes while saying it’s no big deal.

It’s probably and hopefully running its course anyway. Rugby players are starting to not do it and it’s only silly professional sportspeople more interested in likes than of what they’re truly doing. F1 is one of the more middle class sports and Lewis Hamilton has lost masses of fans with his demands that everyone else follows his line while the other drivers display anti racism in their own way. Funny that, even the Germans, Swiss, Austrians, and many other European sportsmen won’t do it or entertain it either. But we’re all little Englanders aren’t we? Have a day off Hol tomorrow. Save us from more BS and double standards.

COYP

It wasn't just the players was it? It was everyone involved right the way through to the broadcasters.

Les Ferdinand has only said what I have. That maybe the gesture has become diluted, although in the past he found it very powerful. I hope you noted that the QPR players DID all take the knee this evening and then a couple of them did so in front of the Millwall fans when they scored.

So now you tell me. Whose assumptions are less credible?

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As most people don't see it that way your point is moot. Only those who follow US politics closely or have a special hatred of anything remotely left feel that way. There's just an abnormal number of them here. Most just see it as a symbol of solidarity with the disadvantaged.

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Someone I know mentors young black graduates in the city of London and he thinks it’s all bollox and would never expect anyone to take the knee for anyone or anything. Depends what your pride and expectations levels are I suppose.

COYP

I think those who are arguing with you are the ones needing strength! Rarely have I encountered such a stubborn refusal to see the obvious as that which exists in this thread. Not I hasten to add only from you.

Let's start by acknowledging that the BLM political movement exists and has not covered itself in glory with some of it's activities. However, the idea that "black lives matter" transcends that political movement and it is the idea, and not the political movement, that the players are showing support for. If you don't believe me, believe them because they have said so. Repeatedly.

That the letter "BLM" on shirts, TV screens etc, is NOT an endorsement of the political movement. It is a simple fact that the idea uses the same words. That the political movement has registered the title and hi-jacked the idea might be clever marketing but that's all it is. They want you to make these mistakes as it's all good publicity. You are being used!

Whether racism was behind the booing or not is unknown but that doesn't make it any less disrespectful.

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Learn and try harder. Some can and do. Some cannot and don't.

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