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 southnorwoodhill  08 Nov 20 11.18am |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
I had inched into the Roy out camp this season as I was sick of watching unimaginative and depressing football. Hats off to Roy for yesterday though. He cleverly reintroduced Ayew in order that he could bring in Eze, with this meaning Eze had more freedom to roam. Leeds have played three counter-attacking teams this season and lost them all, so I don't want to get too excited, but hopefully Roy has listened to the fans frustrations and we will see more games like yesterday moving forward. I'm sure no one wants us to lose under Roy just to prove they were right? One would hope not. Let's just hope Roy has realised that he has now found the balance between attack and defence which this team is very capable of.
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| A1969Eagle Redhill 08 Nov 20 11.20am |
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well said At least we showed today, how good our team without being shackled with negative defensive formations. Strangely Roy never smiled at the end of the game today whereas he did when Brighton got a late goal for the draw???? Originally posted by Eaglecoops
It must be difficult driving with tunnel vision. Today was a great example of what Palace fans have been screaming out for for the best part of 2 seasons. It was a game full of ambition and drive, something that has been sadly missing In all the frustrating crap we were seeing week in week out. If Roy sets them up to go out and play like that for the rest of the season then I will back him to the hilt win or lose. If we go out with the limp wristed approach we put in against Brighton I will be back in the Roy out camp because there is a world of difference between the two.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Nov 20 11.22am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Very diplomatic. So 1 win against a newly promoted side and you are hailing Hodgson as the second best manager in the clubs history. Roy is doing exactly what is expected of him this season. No better, no worse. It will take to the end of December before we no if he’s doing a good job or not. Pullis and BFS left the club because they were ambitious and employable. Roy will not get another job after Palace. You are having a laugh ..and one loss against a far superior squad and he's got to be sacked, you need to get behind your club and understand our position because you quite obviously don't.
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| A1969Eagle Redhill 08 Nov 20 11.30am |
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all good, going better now, we have 17 points from last 54 possible, that true six months form... we fell away badly coming back from Lockdown with 1 win, one draw and 8 defeats (poor football too), because Roy teams never prepared us right, take Villa as the opposite example. I look at current form, not what we did a year ago.. against Leeds we showed we can mix up tactics, that what our fans want to see each match, not a fan of defensive, survival football under Roy! so if we beat Burnley... dodgy game this one.... we shall have 20 points from last 19 matches (form guide) thats Roys target of 40 points from 38 matches, so for him- survival target, the form guide is perfect.. but if we loose to Burnley, form guide is 36 points. thats relegation form!! Fine margins, so onwards with our form looking forward.. Originally posted by braunstoneagle
who is this joker you replied to? last season was last season...we stayed up with ease. this season we have started superbly...i swear some fans wouldnt be happy unless we had 21 points after 7 games. roy out? bollocks...i hope we get him to sign a year extension, something i am sure SP will be chipping away at. stability is a lovely thing, and not to be underestimated.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Nov 20 11.30am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
He’s been shut out of the team for 3 seasons and you’re given Roy the credit for his recent performances? In which we've been playing in the best league in the world, you must spend all your time thinking and looking at ways to come on here to try and convince us that our manager hasn't a clue, a bit sad really.
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| Jacey 08 Nov 20 11.43am |
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Well done Roy for adapting a new attacking style yesterday and for harnessing the quality of our new superstar.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 08 Nov 20 11.46am |
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Originally posted by A1969Eagle
all good, going better now, we have 17 points from last 54 possible, that true six months form... we fell away badly coming back from Lockdown with 1 win, one draw and 8 defeats (poor football too), because Roy teams never prepared us right, take Villa as the opposite example. I look at current form, not what we did a year ago.. against Leeds we showed we can mix up tactics, that what our fans want to see each match, not a fan of defensive, survival football under Roy! so if we beat Burnley... dodgy game this one.... we shall have 20 points from last 19 matches (form guide) thats Roys target of 40 points from 38 matches, so for him- survival target, the form guide is perfect.. but if we loose to Burnley, form guide is 36 points. thats relegation form!! Fine margins, so onwards with our form looking forward. still dont understand why your using the last 10 games of last season, as they dont & didnt matter. actually i do know why, because using an awful run of form after the restart to help weight your agenda against the manager. all the currently matters is this current season, and out progress this season so far. if we lose to burnley we will still have 13 points from 9 games...comfortably mid-table
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| eagle@ tn34 hastings 08 Nov 20 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by Aray
I have still not changed my mind, Royball is depressing and dour. And we have too good a squad to be playing Pulis style football at this stage. After the game yesterday he downplayed the score line- saying it only matters that you score one more than the oppo. Of course it’s true but come on! It shows the negative mindset and explains the disgusting performances v Chelski and Brighton. That said. If he picks out strongest (attacking) line up against beatable teams then that’s something. Eze is obviously ahead of Schlupp in my mind. I am just wondering how we’d have handled Leeds drawing level. They were good going forward and carved us open - but we’re so wide open at times and we didn’t mess around. I’d like us to beat a good team by playing good football. Have we done that yet this season? Could and should have got a draw v Everton. Does that count? Agree strongly with you on this. Everyone clapping ROY because he puts jairo in CM position and starts eze when these are not hard decisions to make. Still waiting to see us perform positively from a goal down as we havent overturned any team yet. COYP
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jeeagles  08 Nov 20 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
In which we've been playing in the best league in the world, you must spend all your time thinking and looking at ways to come on here to try and convince us that our manager hasn't a clue, a bit sad really. People have been saying for months to try Meyer, Reidewald, Camarasa, Sorloth etc whilst his supporters have been saying that we have a weak squad. There were claims we needed wholesale changes, when really all it seems we needed was one or two extra players and better use of the squad we already had. Turns out the Reidewald finally got a break where there was no one else to play in the left back position and after a bit of a run people realise that the 20 year old Dutch international we signed 3 years ago was a decent player. His supporters also say that we can't judge him on one match against say Chelsea or Brighton or Wolves, yet claim he should be totally vindicated for the last half of last season based on the last half of last season. You're arguments are hypocritical and fundamental flawed. I've constantly said he's an average manager who ran out of ideas. He's finally had an idea to play Reidewald and 4-4-2 and he's now on par with whats expected of him. I think the real test is over the next 3 games. The best time to get rid of him would have been the tail end of last season, so an incoming manager would have a transfer window to prepare. At the moment I wouldnt sack him, but we have to think of succession planning and if a decent manager is available we should get them in. Every time we beat a newly promoted side you are straight on here saying what a great manager he is. Bit sad really.
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| jeeagles 08 Nov 20 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Well done Roy for adapting a new attacking style yesterday and for harnessing the quality of our new superstar. He didn't change the style. Leeds where just open at the back, can't defend and have very poor finishing up front. Thats why they got thrashed by Leicester too. Thats why they have the most goals conceded in the league. Bamford has missed the most "big chances" this season, with 6 opportunities squandered. It was a good performance, but let's put everything in context.
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EaglesEaglesEagles  08 Nov 20 12.39pm |
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The one Roy season we didn't play with a proper striker for long spells was with that glorious front three of RLC, Zaha and Townsend. Yesterday reminded me of that, but with less defensive cover. Scott Dann even scored to remind us of those days. What really pleased was Eze's positioning defensively, particularly in the second half and his decision making with our transition into attack. Don't be surprised to see him and Schlupp fighting for that spot. Schlupp is undoubtedly the better defensive option, though he was awful vs Wolves and Eze deserved the start and obviously to keep his place next game.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 08 Nov 20 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
People have been saying for months to try Meyer, Reidewald, Camarasa, Sorloth etc whilst his supporters have been saying that we have a weak squad. There were claims we needed wholesale changes, when really all it seems we needed was one or two extra players and better use of the squad we already had. Turns out the Reidewald finally got a break where there was no one else to play in the left back position and after a bit of a run people realise that the 20 year old Dutch international we signed 3 years ago was a decent player. His supporters also say that we can't judge him on one match against say Chelsea or Brighton or Wolves, yet claim he should be totally vindicated for the last half of last season based on the last half of last season. You're arguments are hypocritical and fundamental flawed. I've constantly said he's an average manager who ran out of ideas. He's finally had an idea to play Reidewald and 4-4-2 and he's now on par with whats expected of him. I think the real test is over the next 3 games. The best time to get rid of him would have been the tail end of last season, so an incoming manager would have a transfer window to prepare. At the moment I wouldnt sack him, but we have to think of succession planning and if a decent manager is available we should get them in. Every time we beat a newly promoted side you are straight on here saying what a great manager he is. Bit sad really. I agree with you and that I feel is the clubs goal to move on with the structure that Mr Hodgson has so far built up, sorry if I'm rude to you, I do not mean it.
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