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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Apr 17 4.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are getting very predictable Ivan.

I have often suspected you are the sock puppet of an 12 year old school girl.

That name doesn't Lendl itself really does it?

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Apr 17 4.39pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

No, and I didn't say he was. I'm merely pointing out the tendency is that the more power a state has over its people, the more repressive it is - and socialism is all about state control.

I don't think it is a symptom of the left but of politics of the fundamentalist, left, right or religiously misguided.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 21 Apr 17 4.40pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Oddly, when I do play a new character it tends to be a bigoted misogynist with a penchant for being as offensive as possible.

How long have you been waiting to unleash that 'zinger', Jamie?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Apr 17 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

That name doesn't Lendl itself really does it?

To a 12 year old school girl? Maybe not.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Apr 17 4.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

That name doesn't Lendl itself really does it?

If one calls one Ivan, can one call the other Adolf?

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 21 Apr 17 4.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Anybody got a take on how Labour can possibly win this regardless of your personal persuasion?

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Apr 17 4.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Anybody got a take on how Labour can possibly win this regardless of your personal persuasion?

Edited by pefwin (21 Apr 2017 4.45pm)

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"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Apr 17 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Anybody got a take on how Labour can possibly win this regardless of your personal persuasion?

Stop trying to play to the masses and focus on no more than 3 policies...each of which need irrefutable costings and realistic timescales in which they'd expect them to be delivered...I'm fed up with smoke and mirrors from all parties, misinformation and abuse that simply aim to deflect and con the voter.

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 21 Apr 17 4.45pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle


Where is your evidence to back this up?

I was merely pointing out that the IMF stats you were trying to use had big caveats which you'd ignored.

I was also pointing out that foreigners buying UK property is not inward investment.


I'd be delighted to be proven wrong, however so far I've seen no proof whatsoever. I've offered numerous amounts of data and analysis to back up every point I've made but you seem to ignore the facts.

I'd be genuinely interested to read some credible source to back up your claims.

Not entirely credible, as it's the LSE, but I get the impression you're the type to lap up whatever they say:

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Most forecasters predicted that the impact of Brexit on the economy and investment would be negative even in the short term. They definitely have been proved wrong. The UK’s real GDP grew by 2% in 2016, well above predictions. Since the referendum, the country’s economy has grown faster than that of the eurozone. Business investment, employment and stock market performance have all exceeded expectations.

According to UNCTAD, inward FDI to the UK surged to US$179 billion in 2016, the second highest in the world, behind the US, representing a six-fold increase over the 2015 total (when the UK ranked 12th). Of the total, $101 billion was due to one mega-deal acquisition, but notably this was finalised after the Brexit referendum.

As for the IMF, I don't "try to use" the stats in any shape or form: I referred to them, and did so qualitatively. Your claim I "tried" (and presumably failed) to "use them" in an unqualified way is utterly pathetic and decidedly condescending. I said "Another upwards growth adjustment from the IMF". Is this incorrect? Was there an upwards growth adjustment, or are they predicting a slowdown?

The claims:
The IMF stated Brexit would trigger a recession. -0.3% GDP growth for Q3 2016.
Lagarde (why isn't she in prison yet?): "Pretty bad to very, very bad".

The reality:
The actual growth was the fastest in the G7.
You are wibbling about a 0.2% downwards adjustment.

Question:
What was the IMF projected growth for 2018 during their scare-fest back before the EU referendum?
Screw it, I'll answer for you (yes, I'll "try to use the stats"

IMF Brexitageddon:
2016: 1.1% (actual growth: +1.8%)
2017: -0.8%
2018: 0.6%

Let's compare to their projections as of now:
2017: 2.0% (+2.8%)
2018: 1.5% (+0.9%)

So yes, well done trying to temper the positive outlook with "but, but, they're DOWNGRADING GROWTH by 0.2% in 2018 - zOMG! OMG!". The IMF has had to issue upwards growth adjustments (from memory) three times since the referendum. Nothing to say they won't do so again for 2018. Nothing to say they will as well - that's the problem with reading tea leaves.

As you seem so very keen to quote Nobel prizewinning Economists (lol - I mean Joseph "the Euro is a threat to the future of Europe" Stiglitz?), perhaps you might introspect somewhat with this, and consider if perhaps you've been "phooled":

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De todos modos, I'm not really going to be issuing put-downs to each of your posts throughout the run-up to the GE. It would seem you have more time to spend on here than I (though you were sorely missed for the EU to-ing and fro-ing on here), but I'll be sure to have a skim-through and a chuckle as often as I can.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Apr 17 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

If one calls one Ivan, can one call the other Adolf?

Are you like the girl in the pub who starts the fight between two blokes?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Apr 17 4.51pm

Originally posted by pefwin

If one calls one Ivan, can one call the other Adolf?

You've hitler nail on the head.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 21 Apr 17 4.56pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle


I know a number of people who work in the Treasury, none of whom agree with his economic policies. He has a degree in PPE which is "econoimcs lite". He's far less qualified an economist than others I've previously mentioned.

The question put to the British people on the 8th June is:

For Chancellor, choose between:
- a PPE Oxford University graduate or,
- a BSc in Government and Politics from Brunel University

There are no other parties in this race for governance. So as snobbish as you sound (and lol, economics isn't exactly hardcore itself), the people essentially have this binary choice.

If it's all the same to you, I'll take PPE over MaoDonnell and his little red book.

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