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 Sansbup  Norfolk 29 Apr 17 8.09pm |
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I know I'll get flak, but it's similar lack of realisation on the part of his fans as when some didn't realise the damage Pardew was doing, but Hennessey made amends for one early good save by being non-existent for both goals. Bloody rubbish.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
So Pickford has never been beaten at his near post then. What the hell are you defending man!?
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 robdave2k 29 Apr 17 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
So Pickford has never been beaten at his near post then. I'm making a point in general. Your keeper should have a presence - WH doesn't. He's 6ft 5, that gives him credibility which he then gives up by appearing to be limp wristed and having no discernible Now onto Pickford, who you seem to have singled out for some reason. He plays behind a crap defence, doesn't stop every shot and yet you are using that as defence of Hennesey. The two are mutually exclusive. So let's do a comparison shall we. Pickford is 8 years younger, 4 inches shorter. He has a massively higher saves percentage, but let's put that into context shall we. If Jordan Pickford had conceded that 2nd goal he wouldn't be getting called out on the Sunderland message boards, because it is (and here is the key point) an isolated mistake. When it happens on multiple occasions then that is called a trend. A trend is what tends to happen most times. Most times is what you would call normal. I have zero faith in Hennesey at this level because of the trends with him in goal.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 29 Apr 17 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
I doubt we will be either next season Thank god for that
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| Painter Croydon 29 Apr 17 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
I'm making a point in general. Your keeper should have a presence - WH doesn't. He's 6ft 5, that gives him credibility which he then gives up by appearing to be limp wristed and having no discernible Now onto Pickford, who you seem to have singled out for some reason. He plays behind a crap defence, doesn't stop every shot and yet you are using that as defence of Hennesey. The two are mutually exclusive. So let's do a comparison shall we. Pickford is 8 years younger, 4 inches shorter. He has a massively higher saves percentage, but let's put that into context shall we. If Jordan Pickford had conceded that 2nd goal he wouldn't be getting called out on the Sunderland message boards, because it is (and here is the key point) an isolated mistake. When it happens on multiple occasions then that is called a trend. A trend is what tends to happen most times. Most times is what you would call normal. I have zero faith in Hennesey at this level because of the trends with him in goal.
This constant blaming him for everything is just irrational.
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| robdave2k 29 Apr 17 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
This constant blaming him for everything is just irrational. Go on then - link please. And just as a point anyway statistics are meaningless. A 25 yard thunderbolt in to the top corner counts as a goal every bit as much as one that trickles through a goalkeepers arms. The mark of a good keeper is one who does the basics right, organises the defence and makes saves they are expected to. A great keeper stops what you don't expect him to. What you are basically saying is that Hennessey could not have been expected to save that second goal today. Therefore by default if you are not expecting him to save something on his near post then he isn't good enough. You would either expect him to save it - which he hasn't so it's an error Or You don't expect him to save it - in which case he isn't a top
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
Go on then - link please. And just as a point anyway statistics are meaningless. A 25 yard thunderbolt in to the top corner counts as a goal every bit as much as one that trickles through a goalkeepers arms. The mark of a good keeper is one who does the basics right, organises the defence and makes saves they are expected to. A great keeper stops what you don't expect him to. What you are basically saying is that Hennessey could not have been expected to save that second goal today. Therefore by default if you are not expecting him to save something on his near post then he isn't good enough. You would either expect him to save it - which he hasn't so it's an error Or You don't expect him to save it - in which case he isn't a top Well exactly.
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VSEagle215  New York 29 Apr 17 11.17pm |
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People who defend him are like the ones who defend/defended Pardew at the end. I do not get it and don't want to.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 29 Apr 17 11.21pm |
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Originally posted by VSEagle215
People who defend him are like the ones who defend/defended Pardew at the end. I do not get it and don't want to. It's insanity. Clear insanity.
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| PZ Eagle Penzance 29 Apr 17 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
It's insanity. Clear insanity. Do you have medical qualifications for saying that?
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| Dangermouse Hastings 29 Apr 17 11.28pm |
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I haven't seen the goals again, but he just doesn't pull off saves when we so need them. Yes he was excellent at Chelsea, but that's one game in two seasons. Heaton kept them in it, cos he did what keeper's should do, make saves. Have no confidence in Wayne, sorry.
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Apr 17 11.28pm |
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Like I said on another thread. When you have a truly class keeper suddenly you realise what you have been putting up with. When Nige first came, once he settled in it was a revelation. Same now in my opinion. The defence doesn't trust WH. They get jumpy when they have to rely on him. He doesn't come out nearly enough, doesn't command the area and just doesn't look dominant enough. He rarely makes saves that are out of the ordinary. He's a journeyman. When we get a proper keeper we will look back and say why didn't we do it earlier.
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