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RICKY Essex 22 Oct 04 4.52pm
Well I suppose for white British and European people we are defined as caucasian, is that an ethnic group or skin colour? All a bit bizarre.
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Essex 22 Oct 04 4.52pm

Well I suppose for white British and European people we are defined as caucasian, is that an ethnic group or skin colour? All a bit bizarre.

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coolboard hove, down among the scum! 22 Oct 04 5.36pm
religion is the route of all evil. oh yeah and the welsh the art of being a palace fan is; To always belive it will happen but remember it probably won't!
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hove, down among the scum! 22 Oct 04 5.36pm

religion is the route of all evil.

oh yeah and the welsh

the art of being a palace fan is; To always belive it will happen but remember it probably won't!

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Norfolk Enchants Kent 22 Oct 04 8.43pm
There is no full blooded Brits left, neither is there any full blooded french,americans, germans blah blah blah. However, in Briain we do still have a unique culture, just like they do in Japan, Australia so on and so forth. It is a well proven fact that cultures shouldnt be thrown on other cultures, as is proven in places like Majorca,Ibiza etc. So my advice to all these people, stop tampering with our way of life!
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There is no full blooded Brits left, neither is there any full blooded french,americans, germans blah blah blah.
However, in Briain we do still have a unique culture, just like they do in Japan, Australia so on and so forth.
It is a well proven fact that cultures shouldnt be thrown on other cultures, as is proven in places like Majorca,Ibiza etc.
So my advice to all these people, stop tampering with our way of life!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 04 6.25pm
I have rarely read such a confused load of twaddle. Most folk dont care if the celebration is called "Christmas" or anything else, so long as someone else is paying. However to go on from that and claim that they are somehow being disadvantaged in the country of their birth and the established religion is being slighted is also complete nonesense. It is a fact that nowdays more people attend Mosques than Church. That is not because there are more Muslims, just because more are devout and very few of those born "Christian" are. Everyone needs to show tolerance and common sense these days and I firmly believe that we rapidly need to become a wholly secular state with no established Church. Fundamentalist Christians are as big a danger to world peace as the Muslim variety, just look at the USA situation for proof of that. If anyone wants a "Christmas" dinner, do so at home amongst family or with fellow believers from your own Church. Elsewhere shut up and accept what others organise for you. If you dont like it dont go. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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I have rarely read such a confused load of twaddle. Most folk dont care if the celebration is called "Christmas" or anything else, so long as someone else is paying. However to go on from that and claim that they are somehow being disadvantaged in the country of their birth and the established religion is being slighted is also complete nonesense. It is a fact that nowdays more people attend Mosques than Church. That is not because there are more Muslims, just because more are devout and very few of those born "Christian" are. Everyone needs to show tolerance and common sense these days and I firmly believe that we rapidly need to become a wholly secular state with no established Church. Fundamentalist Christians are as big a danger to world peace as the Muslim variety, just look at the USA situation for proof of that. If anyone wants a "Christmas" dinner, do so at home amongst family or with fellow believers from your own Church. Elsewhere shut up and accept what others organise for you. If you dont like it dont go.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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geezerspalace Maidstone 27 Oct 04 7.18am
Your average Brit is tolerant, broad minded and embraces other cultures and respects the beliefs of others. Treat others as you'd like/expect to be treated yourself etc. Then out of touch, overpaid, minor officials, who speak corporate,lawyer friendly crap, create divides between people with nonsense like dropping the word Christmas.Why? [Link] Lifelong Palace fan selling loads of Palace stuff I've collected over the years so please check out my Ebay store memorabilialane2011 Cheers, Ian
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Your average Brit is tolerant, broad minded and embraces other cultures and respects the beliefs of others. Treat others as you'd like/expect to be treated yourself etc. Then out of touch, overpaid, minor officials, who speak corporate,lawyer friendly crap, create divides between people with nonsense like dropping the word Christmas.Why?

[Link] Lifelong Palace fan selling loads of Palace stuff I've collected over the years so please check out my Ebay store memorabilialane2011 Cheers, Ian

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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 9.13am
Quote Norfolk Enchants at 22 Oct 2004 8:43pm There is no full blooded Brits left, neither is there any full blooded french,americans, germans blah blah blah. However, in Briain we do still have a unique culture, just like they do in Japan, Australia so on and so forth. It is a well proven fact that cultures shouldnt be thrown on other cultures, as is proven in places like Majorca,Ibiza etc. So my advice to all these people, stop tampering with our way of life! Not gonna start an argument on this one, but that is a bit rich coming from a nation who tampered with EVERY culture they came across with on their world domination tour, killing off every living soul who didn't want to adhere to their religion and way of life ! Stop interfering in your culture ? You don't know the meaning of the sentence !! finished
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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 9.13am

Quote Norfolk Enchants at 22 Oct 2004 8:43pm

There is no full blooded Brits left, neither is there any full blooded french,americans, germans blah blah blah.
However, in Briain we do still have a unique culture, just like they do in Japan, Australia so on and so forth.
It is a well proven fact that cultures shouldnt be thrown on other cultures, as is proven in places like Majorca,Ibiza etc.
So my advice to all these people, stop tampering with our way of life!

Not gonna start an argument on this one, but that is a bit rich coming from a nation who tampered with EVERY culture they came across with on their world domination tour, killing off every living soul who didn't want to adhere to their religion and way of life !

Stop interfering in your culture ? You don't know the meaning of the sentence !!

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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 9.16am
Quote Return2Maidstone at 27 Oct 2004 7:18am Your average Brit is tolerant, broad minded and embraces other cultures and respects the beliefs of others. Treat others as you'd like/expect to be treated yourself etc. When did that start, the last 10 years ? Again, a bit of a clouded idea on your own people seeing you've done everything BUT that the last 5 centuries .. Embraces other cultures ?? Ridicules or thrashes them more like .. Edited by JollyStef (27 Oct 2004 9:17am) finished
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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 9.16am

Quote Return2Maidstone at 27 Oct 2004 7:18am

Your average Brit is tolerant, broad minded and embraces other cultures and respects the beliefs of others. Treat others as you'd like/expect to be treated yourself etc.

When did that start, the last 10 years ? Again, a bit of a clouded idea on your own people seeing you've done everything BUT that the last 5 centuries ..

Embraces other cultures ?? Ridicules or thrashes them more like ..

Edited by JollyStef (27 Oct 2004 9:17am)

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naughty'n'nice Purley 27 Oct 04 9.55am
Why do we have to feel worried incase we affend people? Surely when the other cultured people come here, they have to accept what we do, if you go to Aubi Daubi (or somewhere quite firmly muslim) your not even allowed to wear a cross, but over here they're allowed to celebrate stuff like Dvali. Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests. (sorry for rambling a bit) but my point is : when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs. They dont have to come to England but they choose to.
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Why do we have to feel worried incase we affend people?
Surely when the other cultured people come here, they have to accept what we do, if you go to Aubi Daubi (or somewhere quite firmly muslim) your not even allowed to wear a cross, but over here they're allowed to celebrate stuff like Dvali.
Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests.
(sorry for rambling a bit) but my point is : when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs. They dont have to come to England but they choose to.

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jcreedy 27 Oct 04 10.07am
Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests. when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs. If Blair did more of that, the country would be in an even worse state. It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am
Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests.
when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs.

If Blair did more of that, the country would be in an even worse state.

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 10.28am
Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am Why do we have to feel worried incase we affend people? Surely when the other cultured people come here, they have to accept what we do, if you go to Aubi Daubi (or somewhere quite firmly muslim) your not even allowed to wear a cross, but over here they're allowed to celebrate stuff like Dvali. Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests. (sorry for rambling a bit) but my point is : when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs. They dont have to come to England but they choose to. Not exactly what you did over the centuries when you "visited" other cultures .. Again, I find all these pro-British talk very "head in the sand" stuff. I agree with the fact that christmas needs to be celebrated the way we christians have done it for ages .. I do agree with the fact we need to keep our own identity etc.. but when you start talking about how you English have always been so tolerant then it stops for me. You have NEVER been tolerant throughout history. So a bit of objectivity wouldn't be out of place .. finished
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JollyStef 27 Oct 04 10.28am

Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am

Not exactly what you did over the centuries when you "visited" other cultures ..

Again, I find all these pro-British talk very "head in the sand" stuff. I agree with the fact that christmas needs to be celebrated the way we christians have done it for ages .. I do agree with the fact we need to keep our own identity etc.. but when you start talking about how you English have always been so tolerant then it stops for me. You have NEVER been tolerant throughout history. So a bit of objectivity wouldn't be out of place ..

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 27 Oct 04 11.04am
Quote JollyStef at 27 Oct 2004 10:28am Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am Why do we have to feel worried incase we affend people? Surely when the other cultured people come here, they have to accept what we do, if you go to Aubi Daubi (or somewhere quite firmly muslim) your not even allowed to wear a cross, but over here they're allowed to celebrate stuff like Dvali. Maybe if Blair (and yes it is mainly his fault) was alot stricter on the religious side to the country ie making little kiddies know about Jesus as part of their little kiddy ciriculum rather than giving them tests. (sorry for rambling a bit) but my point is : when they decide to come here they have to accept what we do and how we are a Christain country, and if they feel offended by Christianity then they could go to a country with their belifs. They dont have to come to England but they choose to. Not exactly what you did over the centuries when you "visited" other cultures .. but when you start talking about how you English have always been so tolerant then it stops for me. You have NEVER been tolerant throughout history. So a bit of objectivity wouldn't be out of place .. What happened years and years ago in the colonial days has got nothing to do with us and nothing to do with the Political Correctness crap going on in this country today! This country is very tolerant to other races and cultures - one of the best in the world. In fact, you have always been welcomed to this country and to Palace. And is your girlfriend English?
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Quote JollyStef at 27 Oct 2004 10:28am

Quote dirrrty at 27 Oct 2004 9:55am

Not exactly what you did over the centuries when you "visited" other cultures ..

but when you start talking about how you English have always been so tolerant then it stops for me. You have NEVER been tolerant throughout history. So a bit of objectivity wouldn't be out of place ..

What happened years and years ago in the colonial days has got nothing to do with us and nothing to do with the Political Correctness crap going on in this country today! This country is very tolerant to other races and cultures - one of the best in the world.

In fact, you have always been welcomed to this country and to Palace. And is your girlfriend English?

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saxoneagle Bromley 27 Oct 04 11.09am
And what's wrong with a bit of 17th Century raping and pillaging??? Stef, i don't see your point
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Bromley 27 Oct 04 11.09am

And what's wrong with a bit of 17th Century raping and pillaging???

Stef, i don't see your point

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