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Runningman Flag Keston 06 Jul 24 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The electorate were warned.
All those who voted Labour are in for a very rude awakening.I have a sense of foreboding.


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How about Govt Employees going into Money Purchase Schemes (ie away from Defined Benefit Pensions). That is what the majority of employees who are in private companies have had imposed on them over the past 10/15 years.

Gold plated, inflation linked pensions are a massive drain on the public purse. I get that historically many in public service were deemed to be paid less than in the commercial world but this has changed significantly in recent years.

 

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beak Flag croydon 06 Jul 24 4.10pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Would be nice to try and occasionally post based on the thread title.

No historical references needed!!

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Lammy as Foreign Secretary....

So you are now a moderator,through self promotion I take it.

 

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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 06 Jul 24 6.04pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

No. There’s some bloke just about to cross the Channel from France who needs it…

Sound's about right, it takes the pi**

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 07 Jul 24 7.11am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Starmer drags the English football team into the Euro's semi's. Getting us into the EU by the back door. Totally neglecting, Scotland, Wales and NI.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 07 Jul 24 7.50am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

And so it begins

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If it were true then I wonder whether they will look at public sector pensions?
They are the root of all evil pension wise but I suspect they will be allowed to continue.

 

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The Dolphin Flag 07 Jul 24 7.51am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Runningman


xxxxxx

How about Govt Employees going into Money Purchase Schemes (ie away from Defined Benefit Pensions). That is what the majority of employees who are in private companies have had imposed on them over the past 10/15 years.

Gold plated, inflation linked pensions are a massive drain on the public purse. I get that historically many in public service were deemed to be paid less than in the commercial world but this has changed significantly in recent years.


Didn't read this before I posted - #spot on!!

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Jul 24 8.30am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The electorate were warned.
All those who voted Labour are in for a very rude awakening.I have a sense of foreboding.

Genuine question Willo. We have just lived through the worst government in a generation. Yet 7 million people STILL voted for those who had so negligently mismanaged. Thus...

What would it take to lose your vote? Do they have to slaughter the first born?

Obviously I do not like Reform but I understand the shift from Tory to them. What I don't understand are the millions who stayed in the face of overwhelming reasons to leave or abstain.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Jul 24 8.33am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

And so it begins

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Garbage made up tosh.

However, even if true - good and not before time!

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Jul 24 8.42am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Runningman


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How about Govt Employees going into Money Purchase Schemes (ie away from Defined Benefit Pensions). That is what the majority of employees who are in private companies have had imposed on them over the past 10/15 years.

Gold plated, inflation linked pensions are a massive drain on the public purse. I get that historically many in public service were deemed to be paid less than in the commercial world but this has changed significantly in recent years.

Evidence that pay in the public sector has closed on the private.

Perhaps you are referring to the massive lower paid sector where us drones are facing zero hours and so on?

The middle and upper jobs are hugely better paid in the private sector.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 07 Jul 24 9.17am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Garbage made up tosh.

However, even if true - good and not before time!

So if you were in charge, what would your means threshold be for whether you do or don't become entitled to the state pension?

And would you means-test other public sector provision? The health service for example or perhaps refuse collection?

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jul 24 9.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by YT

So if you were in charge, what would your means threshold be for whether you do or don't become entitled to the state pension?

And would you means-test other public sector provision? The health service for example or perhaps refuse collection?

This is what I asked prior. This could be the thin end as if a precedent is set it will snowball. Clearly if I were a comfortably off millionaire then great yes I won’t need 900 a month. The problem is that if the test is in relation to say property value it would only be owners who could be checked. State and private renters are not checkable unless our bank accounts are opened up or our private pension pots are used. Even with all of this personal info surely it’s your outgoings which determine how much you have to live for a month!

 

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YT Flag Oxford 07 Jul 24 9.55am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

This is what I asked prior. This could be the thin end as if a precedent is set it will snowball. Clearly if I were a comfortably off millionaire then great yes I won’t need 900 a month. The problem is that if the test is in relation to say property value it would only be owners who could be checked. State and private renters are not checkable unless our bank accounts are opened up or our private pension pots are used. Even with all of this personal info surely it’s your outgoings which determine how much you have to live for a month!

Yes, you are getting into the detail there somewhat. My question was somewhat more basic towards someone who proudly stated that means-testing of the state pension is a good idea. So presumably he's thought about it and has a view on who should and who shouldn't receive the state pension. I mean surely he's not just a bitter leftie who can't abide people who are better of than he is.

Edited by YT (07 Jul 2024 9.56am)

 


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