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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 10 Jun 24 8.23pm |
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the European shift to the right will either be... a) Thatcher/LePen/Victor Orban or b) Hitler, Mussolini, General Franco
The Social Contract is broken. The Welfare State is discredited.
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Stirlingsays  10 Jun 24 8.25pm |
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I just want to say that this idea that young people are becoming more progressive doesn't seem true in Europe at least. In Germany for example, the AfD party are very popular statistically in the 16-24 age range. I think the idea that young people are 'progressive' is a mistake. What young people want is for their options to improve....I know most of us are boomers but the simple truth is that we hold all the resources and they don't. So young people are reacting against whoever is in power in their country....in Britain that's the pathetic Tories but across Europe it's been the left or centre.
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cryrst  The garden of England 10 Jun 24 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No, because to do so would point to particular posts and posters and I not going to do that. See if you can spot it. Nope I can’t see one racist on here. I see posters with a less liberal point of view than you about getting illegal immigrants gone. If that’s racism then your bar is very low!
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 10 Jun 24 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Nope I can’t see one racist on here. I see posters with a less liberal point of view than you about getting illegal immigrants gone. If that’s racism then your bar is very low! illegal immigrants are not a race. Nor are most religions. Lefties love to confound things. Just to confuse everybody. you say ''i hate rape gangs'' and lefties reply that you are racist. Its a lazy argument. A straw man. Easily shattered. The Red Army, Germany 1944, was a gigantic Rape Gang.....and all white men doing the raping.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Nope I can’t see one racist on here. I see posters with a less liberal point of view than you about getting illegal immigrants gone. If that’s racism then your bar is very low! I agree with your first two sentences. That’s not racism. Not your last.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
illegal immigrants are not a race. Nor are most religions. Lefties love to confound things. Just to confuse everybody. you say ''i hate rape gangs'' and lefties reply that you are racist. Its a lazy argument. A straw man. Easily shattered. The Red Army, Germany 1944, was a gigantic Rape Gang.....and all white men doing the raping. Opposing criminal behaviour of any kind is not racist.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 24 9.53pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
i It’s refreshing to see some well argued common sense here in the midst of the usual mix of unrealistic populist drivel, closet racism, uneducated rudeness and the occasional intellectually sound but politically skewed contributions. I have a small group of friends but a much larger group of regular acquaintances. Politics don’t usually feature much in our conversations, more bowls and football dominate. Right now it’s understandably different. The strange thing is that despite the general disenchantment with the Tories and politics in general I haven’t heard a single one suggest they will vote Reform. As an aside, when the conversation last week turned to Trump even I was staggered by the voracity of the dislike that poured forth. Compared to my colleagues I am a fan. Which all goes to confirm what I have long believed. That this is an extremely unrepresentative corner of the world where people gather to have their biases confirmed and egos massaged. Opinions here are worth hearing but only because you can get familiar with the thinking. Says the man who lives in the most unrepresentative part of England. Your friends are clearly as deluded as you. Birds of a feather... Yes, that applies to you too.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 10 Jun 24 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Says the man who lives in the most unrepresentative part of England. Your friends are clearly as deluded as you. Birds of a feather... Yes, that applies to you too. Uneducated? what's the test for that?
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 11.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Says the man who lives in the most unrepresentative part of England. Your friends are clearly as deluded as you. Birds of a feather... Yes, that applies to you too. I don’t think that’s in any way true. Most of England is rural and not urban. It’s just that the population density is far lower there. There is much more space, less traffic, cheaper housing, less noise, less pressure and in our case the coast too. If that’s deluded then I am glad to be.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jun 24 11.33pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Uneducated? what's the test for that? Find the short uncouth comments that have little relationship to the discussion and you will have found the test.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Jun 24 6.53am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don’t think that’s in any way true. Most of England is rural and not urban. It’s just that the population density is far lower there. There is much more space, less traffic, cheaper housing, less noise, less pressure and in our case the coast too. If that’s deluded then I am glad to be. Glad that you live in such a lovely place. However I note that not everyone is Cornwall is as welcoming as you are. Less traffic less noise cheaper housing, is something most of us would like. However all the while this country continues to increase it's population then this will become less and less and more and more people will become Nimby's.
Edited by Badger11 (11 Jun 2024 6.54am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 8.32am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Glad that you live in such a lovely place. However I note that not everyone is Cornwall is as welcoming as you are. Less traffic less noise cheaper housing, is something most of us would like. However all the while this country continues to increase it's population then this will become less and less and more and more people will become Nimby's.
Edited by Badger11 (11 Jun 2024 6.54am) Having lived in many places in the UK I find that the people here are the least Nimby type I have lived among. They welcome new developments as necessary to sustain growth, ensure housing is available for the young and the incomers we are seeing who come to fill the vacancies. There’s much more Nimbyism in crowded places where green space is at a premium. The idea that we are “full” is often held by those who live in crowded urban areas. It just isn’t true. There’s actually lots of room elsewhere where sensible, well planned development can happen. It just needs to be structured correctly with infrastructure being thought about before anything else.
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