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Teddy Eagle 26 Feb 24 8.44pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle A vote that will change as their economic circumstances change. Voting preferences aren’t determined by religious beliefs. They are determined by individuals. Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else. [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

26 Feb 24 8.44pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

A vote that will change as their economic circumstances change. Voting preferences aren’t determined by religious beliefs. They are determined by individuals.

Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else.

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Matov 26 Feb 24 9.37pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else. [Link] And why the Muslim vote is so so important to the Left as a whole. Which makes what is happening with Starmer and this Gaza debacle so fascinating because this is modern power politics writ large. The financial, and often hidden power, of the Jewish lobby v the much noisier and electorally impactful Muslim vote. But lets focus on Anderson. One of the few genuine working class Tories who might actually be able to harness the utter disaster that the Tory party is going to be by the end of the year. Events of the last 10 days or so are very telling about how the future of British politics is going to pan out. And the choices people are going to have to make. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

26 Feb 24 9.37pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else.

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And why the Muslim vote is so so important to the Left as a whole. Which makes what is happening with Starmer and this Gaza debacle so fascinating because this is modern power politics writ large.

The financial, and often hidden power, of the Jewish lobby v the much noisier and electorally impactful Muslim vote.

But lets focus on Anderson. One of the few genuine working class Tories who might actually be able to harness the utter disaster that the Tory party is going to be by the end of the year.

Events of the last 10 days or so are very telling about how the future of British politics is going to pan out. And the choices people are going to have to make.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 10.24pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else. [Link] We know it happens. I guess it always has without attracting the same level of attention in all male dominated societies, especially where illiteracy exists . How widespread it is, is another matter. It’s a good reason for IDs to be required and strict oversight of procedure to be enforced. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 10.24pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Even when those individuals have their vote determined by someone else.

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We know it happens. I guess it always has without attracting the same level of attention in all male dominated societies, especially where illiteracy exists . How widespread it is, is another matter.

It’s a good reason for IDs to be required and strict oversight of procedure to be enforced.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 10.33pm
Originally posted by Matov And why the Muslim vote is so so important to the Left as a whole. Which makes what is happening with Starmer and this Gaza debacle so fascinating because this is modern power politics writ large. The financial, and often hidden power, of the Jewish lobby v the much noisier and electorally impactful Muslim vote. But lets focus on Anderson. One of the few genuine working class Tories who might actually be able to harness the utter disaster that the Tory party is going to be by the end of the year. Events of the last 10 days or so are very telling about how the future of British politics is going to pan out. And the choices people are going to have to make. The idea that the kind of attitude displayed by Anderson, and indeed by Badenoch, would ever be attractive to a majority of British voters , seems nonsensical to me. They are merely part of the noisy minority headed by Farage and Reform. Their voices need to be heard so their ideas can be defeated by the commonly held decent standards of the majority. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 10.33pm

Originally posted by Matov

And why the Muslim vote is so so important to the Left as a whole. Which makes what is happening with Starmer and this Gaza debacle so fascinating because this is modern power politics writ large.

The financial, and often hidden power, of the Jewish lobby v the much noisier and electorally impactful Muslim vote.

But lets focus on Anderson. One of the few genuine working class Tories who might actually be able to harness the utter disaster that the Tory party is going to be by the end of the year.

Events of the last 10 days or so are very telling about how the future of British politics is going to pan out. And the choices people are going to have to make.

The idea that the kind of attitude displayed by Anderson, and indeed by Badenoch, would ever be attractive to a majority of British voters , seems nonsensical to me. They are merely part of the noisy minority headed by Farage and Reform.

Their voices need to be heard so their ideas can be defeated by the commonly held decent standards of the majority.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 26 Feb 24 10.37pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We know it happens. I guess it always has without attracting the same level of attention in all male dominated societies, especially where illiteracy exists . How widespread it is, is another matter. It’s a good reason for IDs to be required and strict oversight of procedure to be enforced. Voter ID is only part of it. [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

26 Feb 24 10.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We know it happens. I guess it always has without attracting the same level of attention in all male dominated societies, especially where illiteracy exists . How widespread it is, is another matter.

It’s a good reason for IDs to be required and strict oversight of procedure to be enforced.

Voter ID is only part of it.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 26 Feb 24 11.06pm
[Link] Here it starts Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 26 Feb 24 11.06pm

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Here it starts

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Badger11 Beckenham 27 Feb 24 7.41am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Voter ID is only part of it. [Link] Indeed postal voting is where the real fraud happens. Multiple people living in the same house with multiple identites is one fraud. The other fraud is the local politician telling "his people" to obtain a postal vote and he will pop round and fill it out for them. Why would they do that? Because back in the home country his family have the power to destroy their families so why wouldn't you. Getting on the electoral roll can be all too easy and certain Labour councils don't seem to bothered about doing their checks properly, I can't imagine why. I think in the Tower hamlets case there was one 3 bed semi that has 30 plus registered voters and nobody noticed. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 27 Feb 24 7.41am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Voter ID is only part of it.

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Indeed postal voting is where the real fraud happens. Multiple people living in the same house with multiple identites is one fraud.

The other fraud is the local politician telling "his people" to obtain a postal vote and he will pop round and fill it out for them. Why would they do that? Because back in the home country his family have the power to destroy their families so why wouldn't you.

Getting on the electoral roll can be all too easy and certain Labour councils don't seem to bothered about doing their checks properly, I can't imagine why.

I think in the Tower hamlets case there was one 3 bed semi that has 30 plus registered voters and nobody noticed.

One more point

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Matov 27 Feb 24 7.46am
Originally posted by HKOwen [Link] Here it starts And fair play to them. Why not decide to act in a way that benefits their specific collective racial identity and common interests (and to save any lefties the bother, if you want to slate the likes of Anderson for being 'racist' then it has to follow that being Muslim is a racial identity)? Lessons to be learned here for many of us. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

27 Feb 24 7.46am

Originally posted by HKOwen

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Here it starts

And fair play to them. Why not decide to act in a way that benefits their specific collective racial identity and common interests (and to save any lefties the bother, if you want to slate the likes of Anderson for being 'racist' then it has to follow that being Muslim is a racial identity)?

Lessons to be learned here for many of us.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Matov 27 Feb 24 7.53am
Also lets not forget that Anderson was made Deputy because he represented the white working class Tory wing of the Conservative Party. And now...effectively thrown out. The Tories DONT WANT OUR VOTES. How much clearer can it be now? They are determined to lose the next general election. It cannot be any less blatant. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

27 Feb 24 7.53am

Also lets not forget that Anderson was made Deputy because he represented the white working class Tory wing of the Conservative Party.

And now...effectively thrown out.

The Tories DONT WANT OUR VOTES. How much clearer can it be now? They are determined to lose the next general election. It cannot be any less blatant.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 27 Feb 24 8.02am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You are a cynic. With modern biometrics I very much doubt any passport bought in a pub will get you anywhere, other than in trouble. As someone who believes that voting I D ought to be introduced and probably will be I think any real problem can be handled. I may be a cynic…I suggest you read some of the comments and links that others have contributed to this discussion further on in the debate and you may notice that being a cynic is not unfounded. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Sussex 27 Feb 24 8.02am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are a cynic. With modern biometrics I very much doubt any passport bought in a pub will get you anywhere, other than in trouble.

As someone who believes that voting I D ought to be introduced and probably will be I think any real problem can be handled.

I may be a cynic…I suggest you read some of the comments and links that others have contributed to this discussion further on in the debate and you may notice that being a cynic is not unfounded.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 24 8.14am
Originally posted by HKOwen [Link] Here it starts If you read what the guy writing it says he accepts he doesn’t speak for all Muslims. He also says that many of the problems faced are shared with many other Brits! I find it encouraging that someone is encouraging the use of our democracy to address grievances. Much better than encouraging terrorism. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 27 Feb 24 8.14am

Originally posted by HKOwen

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Here it starts

If you read what the guy writing it says he accepts he doesn’t speak for all Muslims. He also says that many of the problems faced are shared with many other Brits!

I find it encouraging that someone is encouraging the use of our democracy to address grievances. Much better than encouraging terrorism.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Feb 24 8.15am
Originally posted by Badger11 Indeed postal voting is where the real fraud happens. Multiple people living in the same house with multiple identites is one fraud. The other fraud is the local politician telling "his people" to obtain a postal vote and he will pop round and fill it out for them. Why would they do that? Because back in the home country his family have the power to destroy their families so why wouldn't you. Getting on the electoral roll can be all too easy and certain Labour councils don't seem to bothered about doing their checks properly, I can't imagine why. I think in the Tower hamlets case there was one 3 bed semi that has 30 plus registered voters and nobody noticed. Thank you Badger for this. I also mentioned this last year, I believe & was shot down(by certain lefty posters) that I was lying, it never happened & that THEY knew better. So, again thank you. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Feb 24 8.15am

Originally posted by Badger11

Indeed postal voting is where the real fraud happens. Multiple people living in the same house with multiple identites is one fraud.

Getting on the electoral roll can be all too easy and certain Labour councils don't seem to bothered about doing their checks properly, I can't imagine why.

I think in the Tower hamlets case there was one 3 bed semi that has 30 plus registered voters and nobody noticed.

Thank you Badger for this. I also mentioned this last year, I believe & was shot down(by certain lefty posters) that I was lying, it never happened & that THEY knew better. So, again thank you.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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