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cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 23 7.19pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Actually I think the principle is a good one. People who have a genuine long-term heritage in a nation should have their views and opinions given higher consideration and value.

Why should somebody who can trace their family tree back for hundreds of years not be considered of more importance than newcomers when it comes to matters of state?

I am with the Leftwingers on this because I think the principle is of crucial importance.

So in the uk, whites should have a higher level of vote?

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 16 Oct 23 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What’s important in this is to ensure we treat those who commit atrocities as the criminals they are. We need to be ruthless in our efforts to identify them before they act and severe in our punishments if they do.

What we mustn’t do is ostracise all the Muslims who aren’t terrorists. We must treat people on how they behave and not on what they believe.

Yes, go up and ask them, if they stab you, you know the are a wrongen

 


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Fudger Flag Cardiff 16 Oct 23 7.29pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That might be today's simple truth but we must look beyond today, and indeed beyond tomorrow. Defining what happens next is often ignored in the rush to deal with the immediate.

Iran and radical Islam are indeed a major problem but why do they exist? What has created them and how do we help to turn people away from it? There are many in Iran who would be very pleased to see their country become a modern democracy. Not all Islamic countries are radical, so there are models to be found.

Israel responding in the way they are to the atrocities committed by Hamas is probably exactly what Hamas wanted to happen. Israel is rapidly being seen as an aggressor and not a victim.

Hamas don't care about civilian casualties, or losing their own fighters.

So I worry that Israel in responding in the way they always do when provoked is making the problem worse. A more nuanced, thoughtful and targetted response which clearly tries to protect the long suffering innocent, whilst being ruthless with Hamas itself, would keep the rest of the world onside and perhaps see a shorter route to a long term solution.

So how the F**K do you do that, reply please

 

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Matov Flag 16 Oct 23 8.40pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So in the uk, whites should have a higher level of vote?


Based on this principle, then very much so although I am personally now in favour of getting rid of democracy as we understand it.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Oct 23 9.16pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Fudger

So how the F**K do you do that, reply please

Probably by regime change a no nonsense call it whatever you want, but put simply Hamas need to go & moderates installed into power Also there needs to be concessions from Israel as well.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 23 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Yes, go up and ask them, if they stab you, you know the are a wrongen

That’s just silly. No one thinks we simplify ignore dangerous people. I am talking about an overall strategy of ensuring that we separate the truly evil from those who are just wanting a peaceful life.

 


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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 16 Oct 23 9.31pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That’s just silly. No one thinks we simplify ignore dangerous people. I am talking about an overall strategy of ensuring that we separate the truly evil from those who are just wanting a peaceful life.

Yes. Which is probably why Israel asked people to leave northern Gaza so that only the bad guys stay behind to fight. Except the world is totally against that strategy.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 23 9.31pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Fudger

So how the F**K do you do that, reply please

I am not, and nor do I suspect is anyone else here, either a military strategist or privy to all the intelligence that Israel possesses. So I don’t have a precise answer.

Trying though to adopt a more nuanced, forensic approach to decapitate Hamas and encourage their overthrow from within Gaza makes more sense to me than the current one which will see both a huge loss of innocent lives, immense suffering of many more and the support of the international community shredded.

That would equal a victory for Hamas.

You don’t defeat ideas with wars. You defeat ideas with better ideas.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 23 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Yes. Which is probably why Israel asked people to leave northern Gaza so that only the bad guys stay behind to fight. Except the world is totally against that strategy.

Many of the bad guys will be in the convoys leaving, ready to regroup and fight another day.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Oct 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That might be today's simple truth but we must look beyond today, and indeed beyond tomorrow. Defining what happens next is often ignored in the rush to deal with the immediate.

Iran and radical Islam are indeed a major problem but why do they exist? What has created them and how do we help to turn people away from it? There are many in Iran who would be very pleased to see their country become a modern democracy. Not all Islamic countries are radical, so there are models to be found.

Israel responding in the way they are to the atrocities committed by Hamas is probably exactly what Hamas wanted to happen. Israel is rapidly being seen as an aggressor and not a victim.

Hamas don't care about civilian casualties, or losing their own fighters.

So I worry that Israel in responding in the way they always do when provoked is making the problem worse. A more nuanced, thoughtful and targetted response which clearly tries to protect the long suffering innocent, whilst being ruthless with Hamas itself, would keep the rest of the world onside and perhaps see a shorter route to a long term solution.

I would imagine that the people pulling the string will not be concerned with converting radical Islam to a moderate belief system. Their concern will be preventing a radical government or organisation from obtaining a nuclear weapon to threaten the stability of the world.

The US has eyes on Iran and will be very happy to see Israel destroy or weaken its allies, even if that means serious collateral damage.

Hamas, who were obviously aided by outside agencies, have struck at a time when Israeli relations with Saudi were making progress. This was obviously deliberate. What ever plan Hamas and its allies might have, they will not be successful. America will do whatever it takes to make sure of that. It could get very ugly, and we must hope that the conflict remains conventional and contained.

 

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eritheagle Flag Erith 16 Oct 23 10.13pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Belgium v Sweden abandoned at h-t after two Swedes shot dead in terrorist attack in Brussles!

And it begins!!!

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 23 10.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Many of the bad guys will be in the convoys leaving, ready to regroup and fight another day.

Probably sitting around women and children on flat bed trucks !

 

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