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 EddieMac  05 Sep 23 6.56am |
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taylors lovechild  05 Sep 23 8.38am |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Sep 23 9.27am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Really? I grew up literally watching Dave Allen take the p1ss out of religion nearly every week during his series on the box. The only taboo I remember on the telly was swearing and no one was arresting you for it. No, today we have 'protected classes', and 'perception' of 'offence' which are bad laws and I will complain like feck about it every day of the week because these laws shouldn't exist. I heard the other day that more people are arrested for what they say in this country than they are in Russia. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2023 8.54pm) When was the last time you saw a crime fiction drama where Travellers were actually guilty? No they are all the same show, Travellers move into an area crime goes up and the locals point the finger leaving it to the TV detective to lecture the rest of us on prejudice whilst proving they are innocent. I'm not saying that all crime shows should have villains who are black / gay / trans or travellers that would be boring as well but it would be nice if once in a while one of them "did it" instead of the usual male / pale / stale / middle class.* There is a TV show Law & Order SVU it is so woke it is laughable. A crime is committed, in the first 5 minutes one of the protected classes is a suspect well you know they are not guilty then at some point we are introduced to a white male character gosh I wonder who dunnit. The argument seems to be that the "protected classes" are always portrayed in a negative light which leads to prejudice and stereotyping. However this is a bit like saying the butler did it so it;s an old cliche. Can anyone every remember seeing a show where the butler did it? If it's a cliche there must be loads of shows, I don't think there are. *Midsomer Murders is a bit of exception most of the villains seem to be female serial killers which is over representation. Edited by Badger11 (05 Sep 2023 9.33am)
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| Glazier#1 05 Sep 23 9.55am |
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News/politics
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Sep 23 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
News/politics I think so. There's plenty of discussion to be had around the subject matter I'm sure, but there has been an alleged incident of racism at Palace. If this is untrue, let it be known, reported, amended and apologies issued. If it is, I genuinely pity the perpetrator and whatever is causing them to act as such but it's unwelcome in the ground for many of us as fans, we don't want it anywhere near our club and punishment/reaction should be appropriate to reflect that.
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| silvertop Portishead 05 Sep 23 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
When was the last time you saw a crime fiction drama where Travellers were actually guilty? No they are all the same show, Travellers move into an area crime goes up and the locals point the finger leaving it to the TV detective to lecture the rest of us on prejudice whilst proving they are innocent. I'm not saying that all crime shows should have villains who are black / gay / trans or travellers that would be boring as well but it would be nice if once in a while one of them "did it" instead of the usual male / pale / stale / middle class.* There is a TV show Law & Order SVU it is so woke it is laughable. A crime is committed, in the first 5 minutes one of the protected classes is a suspect well you know they are not guilty then at some point we are introduced to a white male character gosh I wonder who dunnit. The argument seems to be that the "protected classes" are always portrayed in a negative light which leads to prejudice and stereotyping. However this is a bit like saying the butler did it so it;s an old cliche. Can anyone every remember seeing a show where the butler did it? If it's a cliche there must be loads of shows, I don't think there are. *Midsomer Murders is a bit of exception most of the villains seem to be female serial killers which is over representation. Edited by Badger11 (05 Sep 2023 9.33am) Like when there is a gang and one of the members is black. You just know he will end up being undercover FBI. The introduction of the straight white male as the inevitable perp is as obvious as the surly petrol pump attendant in Scooby Doo.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Sep 23 10.29am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Like when there is a gang and one of the members is black. You just know he will end up being undercover FBI. The introduction of the straight white male as the inevitable perp is as obvious as the surly petrol pump attendant in Scooby Doo. I do like my crime dramas but what I realised is that if it's a regular show you will have 5/6 regular actors plus 2/3 guest actors so it's not hard to work out which one of the guests is the villain. NCIS is one that it's so easy to see who the bad guy is, they insist on introducing them early on in the show as "random guy" you just know that they will pop up later as the villain otherwise why are they there .
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| silvertop Portishead 05 Sep 23 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It was just something I heard so I won't make any claim more concrete than that. I spent one search on it and found this. That Russian was not comparing apples. The 3,300 were those arrested (not necessarily charged) under The Communications Act 2003 which includes emails, texts and social media posts/blogs. The offences range from sexual offences - including grooming and stalking - to fraud, as well as "racially aggravated conduct". Even on the latter, I suspect if you knew the facts, you may think some were suitable cases for the thin blue line. Anti semitic attacks by Muslims, for instance. All in all, this seems to be a case where we are, to an extent, getting it right and Russia wrong. And not one case over here of arrests for criticizing the government which, I suspect, is where most, if not all, arrests in Russia are recorded. The Russian Rozzer having no apparent interest in children being groomed online... but call Putin out for his manly chest...
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| silvertop Portishead 05 Sep 23 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I do like my crime dramas but what I realised is that if it's a regular show you will have 5/6 regular actors plus 2/3 guest actors so it's not hard to work out which one of the guests is the villain. NCIS is one that it's so easy to see who the bad guy is, they insist on introducing them early on in the show as "random guy" you just know that they will pop up later as the villain otherwise why are they there .
Also, cf Red Tops in Star Trek. I understand they have made a cartoon just about them, no doubt focusing on their limited mortality.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 23 11.33am |
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This is all a very nice deflection from how awful Wolves were on Saturday. One bloke in a crowd allegedly calls a player a rude name and it becomes headlines? Give me a break. What a pathetic society we have become.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Sep 23 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
That Russian was not comparing apples. The 3,300 were those arrested (not necessarily charged) under The Communications Act 2003 which includes emails, texts and social media posts/blogs. The offences range from sexual offences - including grooming and stalking - to fraud, as well as "racially aggravated conduct". Even on the latter, I suspect if you knew the facts, you may think some were suitable cases for the thin blue line. Anti semitic attacks by Muslims, for instance. All in all, this seems to be a case where we are, to an extent, getting it right and Russia wrong. And not one case over here of arrests for criticizing the government which, I suspect, is where most, if not all, arrests in Russia are recorded. The Russian Rozzer having no apparent interest in children being groomed online... but call Putin out for his manly chest... The point was about being arrested for what is said online with. We literally have laws that mean people will be arrested for saying things that the Police consider offensive towards some 'protected' class. We literally saw a girl being arrested the other day...not for what was said online....but just for talking about someone looking like a lesbian. No, we very much do not having things about right. As an aside where are you getting the stats on the nature of Russian arrests
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| Stirlingsays 05 Sep 23 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
When was the last time you saw a crime fiction drama where Travellers were actually guilty? No they are all the same show, Travellers move into an area crime goes up and the locals point the finger leaving it to the TV detective to lecture the rest of us on prejudice whilst proving they are innocent. I'm not saying that all crime shows should have villains who are black / gay / trans or travellers that would be boring as well but it would be nice if once in a while one of them "did it" instead of the usual male / pale / stale / middle class.* There is a TV show Law & Order SVU it is so woke it is laughable. A crime is committed, in the first 5 minutes one of the protected classes is a suspect well you know they are not guilty then at some point we are introduced to a white male character gosh I wonder who dunnit. The argument seems to be that the "protected classes" are always portrayed in a negative light which leads to prejudice and stereotyping. However this is a bit like saying the butler did it so it;s an old cliche. Can anyone every remember seeing a show where the butler did it? If it's a cliche there must be loads of shows, I don't think there are. *Midsomer Murders is a bit of exception most of the villains seem to be female serial killers which is over representation. Edited by Badger11 (05 Sep 2023 9.33am) The nature of my TV viewing has improved massively since I stopped my TV license. I built up an extensive library of classic shows of the past and there is very little to none of all this BS.
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