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Another club trusting a young one today- 19 year old Mainoo for Manchester United ahead of a host of experienced players on the bench.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I never said his opinions are crap. It’s not the youngsters who have led us to win one game at home all season and turn in some abject performances this season. No doubt the retort will be that the performances would have been worse with the younger players. All right Patrick , you didn’t actually say he is crap. But the drift of your posts have constantly inferred he hasn’t got the wisdom to handle our complete squad ,young and old..What ! a man that has handled God knows how many players around Europe, He weighed the situation up for Franca, in a way that many a seasoned pro would do. A sensible reasoned response , of course he found it easier ten minutes of fresh legs. What he means is you are going to need 90 minutes, it’s a man’s game , Franca, did well Roy acknowledged it , Franca, will not be put off by that he will have had worse in America.. And if he was he should never be here.
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Originally posted by pssguy
It will be ironic if, on Thursday, Doris's grandson, 18 year old Jack skips past Hughes, Riedewald and Ward before slotting home the winner against us whilst Franca and Ozoh look on from the bench Don't you even go there . . .
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Yes, they were, but, i was replying to silvertop's post & added Guehi in as it was relevant. And, yes, I accept none were started under Roy. He is a safe pair of hands in troubled seas. He can't play youngsters unless forced as Moneyballs favours an experienced and settled team when the resources are as (relatively) low as ours. It intrigues me what the club will do when (alright if) the Academy starts pumping through a couple of players a season. I mean - unless we get as stat savvy as Brighton and Brentford and recruit smarter - will the manager be given the brief to stay up AND bring young players on as most fans on this site seem to want. There is a tension between the two. When we have a team full of Edouards and Wards who are very good but journeymen in this division, do we really have the space to blood youth as, say a Man City could?
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Originally posted by silvertop
And, yes, I accept none were started under Roy. He is a safe pair of hands in troubled seas. He can't play youngsters unless forced as Moneyballs favours an experienced and settled team when the resources are as (relatively) low as ours. It intrigues me what the club will do when (alright if) the Academy starts pumping through a couple of players a season. I mean - unless we get as stat savvy as Brighton and Brentford and recruit smarter - will the manager be given the brief to stay up AND bring young players on as most fans on this site seem to want. There is a tension between the two. When we have a team full of Edouards and Wards who are very good but journeymen in this division, do we really have the space to blood youth as, say a Man City could? On the issue of Roy, I support him fully in the situation he is trying to deal with. But that’s it he can not be asked to carry on. Edited by Putitout (18 Dec 2023 11.33am)
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once again. I believe that tired legs may have cost us.
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I despair.
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Bang on, not just tired legs, but tired minds having to be on the back foot the whole time - it is a game of probablities as well and defending in your own third for so long has a predictable loosing outcome. Roy is not a manager for the modern game. Let's be clear, when he "rescued" us last season, it was with a run of really easy fixtures, but the season is not like that unfortunately and now his tactics do not work, especially when it comes to coaching the talented youth on our bench! Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
once again. I believe that tired legs may have cost us.
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We've conceded a goal after the 80th minute in six of our last eight games, costing us eight points. Unbelievably, all six of these goals were scored by opposition substitutes. We only made the first substitution in two of those games and both were due to injury. Our in-game management is costing us dearly. Roy is reactive, rather than proactive, and even then he's far too slow. We can all see what's coming in these games and he just does nothing about it until it's too late.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold... |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
We've conceded a goal after the 80th minute in six of our last eight games, costing us eight points. Unbelievably, all six of these goals were scored by opposition substitutes. We only made the first substitution in two of those games and both were due to injury. Our in-game management is costing us dearly. Roy is reactive, rather than proactive, and even then he's far too slow. We can all see what's coming in these games and he just does nothing about it until it's too late. Agree completely, and the numbers are pretty damning - surely if we have any sort of sports science/data team, that sort of thing jumps off the page at them. Eze shouldn't have been left out there for 90 minutes yesterday following his injury, and his tired tackle for the match-winning penalty shows exactly why. Roy clearly has no faith at all in the squad players, but I view that more of a Roy problem than with the players themselves - as recently as City away Ozoh, Ahamada and Franca have all shown themselves as capable of impacting games at this level, and yet we just watch the same players run themselves into the ground game after game. He's started Hughes in the Eze role previously, so even if he doesn't trust one of the younger lads, just stick Hughes in there and see the game out. Just baffling.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Agree completely, and the numbers are pretty damning - surely if we have any sort of sports science/data team, that sort of thing jumps off the page at them. Eze shouldn't have been left out there for 90 minutes yesterday following his injury, and his tired tackle for the match-winning penalty shows exactly why. Roy clearly has no faith at all in the squad players, but I view that more of a Roy problem than with the players themselves - as recently as City away Ozoh, Ahamada and Franca have all shown themselves as capable of impacting games at this level, and yet we just watch the same players run themselves into the ground game after game. He's started Hughes in the Eze role previously, so even if he doesn't trust one of the younger lads, just stick Hughes in there and see the game out. Just baffling. Totally agree. Medical guys have told Roy not to rush Eze back, ridiculous tgat he kept him on. Ahamada is a player I rate, he was a regular in the Bundeliga but Roy hardly gives him a sniff. He should have been on with Franca both of whom would have helped relieve the burden on the defence. I also am of the opinion that Andersen is getting peed off with the way we play
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Totally agree. Medical guys have told Roy not to rush Eze back, ridiculous tgat he kept him on. Ahamada is a player I rate, he was a regular in the Bundeliga but Roy hardly gives him a sniff. He should have been on with Franca both of whom would have helped relieve the burden on the defence. I also am of the opinion that Andersen is getting peed off with the way we play Yep, so many options to replace Eze yesterday - an argument can be made for any of Hughes, Schlupp, Ozoh or Franca, depending on what you’re trying to achieve, but to go with none is just poor game management. A more progressive manager absolutely finds solutions in our squad - Roy seems more interested in pointing out how bad our squad is.
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