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beak croydon 06 Jul 23 9.07am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle A percentage of it anyway since his replacement will have to be paid. I said kitty,not transfer kitty,wages have to come out of the pot obviously but no one will be paid the silly money offered to Zaha.
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croydon 06 Jul 23 9.07am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

A percentage of it anyway since his replacement will have to be paid.

I said kitty,not transfer kitty,wages have to come out of the pot obviously but no one will be paid the silly money offered to Zaha.

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YT Oxford 06 Jul 23 10.51am
There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season. Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am) Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 06 Jul 23 10.51am

There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season.

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Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 06 Jul 23 10.58am
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Lots on here seem to assume this is all part of a master plan, Roy nurtures Paddy for a year and hey presto Paddy leads us to the promised land. I don't see that level of planning by the board. Roy however great he is/was is in the twilight years. We clearly looked at other managers but failed to appoint. We have taken the easy way out. Will it work? Only time will tell No big deal, especially if we’d ended up with someone sacked by Leeds, Watford, Norwich, Leicester, Wolves or Southampton. There’s a long list of managers now on the merry go round that we could’ve ended up with, so on reflection im quite happy we’ve stuck with Roy
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 06 Jul 23 10.58am

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Lots on here seem to assume this is all part of a master plan, Roy nurtures Paddy for a year and hey presto Paddy leads us to the promised land.

I don't see that level of planning by the board.

Roy however great he is/was is in the twilight years. We clearly looked at other managers but failed to appoint.

We have taken the easy way out. Will it work? Only time will tell

No big deal, especially if we’d ended up with someone sacked by Leeds, Watford, Norwich, Leicester, Wolves or Southampton. There’s a long list of managers now on the merry go round that we could’ve ended up with, so on reflection im quite happy we’ve stuck with Roy

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SurbsEagle 06 Jul 23 11.44am
Originally posted by YT There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season. Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am) Well said.
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06 Jul 23 11.44am

Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am)

Well said.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 23 11.44am
Originally posted by YT There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season. Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am) Yes !! Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 23 11.44am

Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am)

Yes !!

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 11.48am
Originally posted by YT There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season. Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am) Exactly that. Could be far, far worse. Let's hypothetically say we still spend no money but bring in somebody completely untired and untested. Without the funds to invest in team, to be quite frank, Roy is probably best we can hope for next season. Ended last term strongly, has the experience and track record to avoid catastrophe etc. etc. Ideal? No. Far from catastrophe? Yes. COYP Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 11.48am

Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am)

Exactly that.

Could be far, far worse. Let's hypothetically say we still spend no money but bring in somebody completely untired and untested.

Without the funds to invest in team, to be quite frank, Roy is probably best we can hope for next season. Ended last term strongly, has the experience and track record to avoid catastrophe etc. etc.

Ideal? No. Far from catastrophe? Yes.

COYP

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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YT Oxford 06 Jul 23 4.02pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Exactly that. Could be far, far worse. Let's hypothetically say we still spend no money but bring in somebody completely untired and untested. Without the funds to invest in team, to be quite frank, Roy is probably best we can hope for next season. Ended last term strongly, has the experience and track record to avoid catastrophe etc. etc. Ideal? No. Far from catastrophe? Yes. COYP Because Roy can get a bit weary at his advanced age? Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 06 Jul 23 4.02pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Exactly that.

Could be far, far worse. Let's hypothetically say we still spend no money but bring in somebody completely untired and untested.

Without the funds to invest in team, to be quite frank, Roy is probably best we can hope for next season. Ended last term strongly, has the experience and track record to avoid catastrophe etc. etc.

Ideal? No. Far from catastrophe? Yes.

COYP

Because Roy can get a bit weary at his advanced age?

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 4.08pm
Originally posted by YT Because Roy can get a bit weary at his advanced age? Could actually be a good descriptor for him. I'm in my 30's yet 90 mins of football Tuesday looks to have put me out for a month! Still raring at his grand old age though! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 4.08pm

Originally posted by YT

Because Roy can get a bit weary at his advanced age?

Could actually be a good descriptor for him. I'm in my 30's yet 90 mins of football Tuesday looks to have put me out for a month!

Still raring at his grand old age though!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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est1905 06 Jul 23 5.23pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 So, who in your experienced opinion, should we sign that's going to give us top half finishes & possibly Europe. Paddy learning from probably the most experience manger in the Prem, is a risk far better than anyone else, UNLESS they happen to be a Prem winner & fit in with the Palace ethos . . . Who said anything about top half finishes? If Paddy Macarthy got the Palace job in a years time based on working as Roy's number 2 I'd be happy if we were still in touch of safety once they sacked him. Working as a number 2 no matter how much the players respect him means absolutely nothing when we are talking about his ability to take the top job. Plus, thanks for describing my opinion as 'experienced' but you are wrong there (not for the first time it seems) I have only the experience of what I have witnessed down the years in all my time supporting Palace and watching football in general. Same as you I imagine. Only difference I can see is that I dont look at the clubs business decisions romantically. I look at things that make sensible business and footballing sense. For me? gambling £100m+ annual income an ex player whose done well with the reserves because, lets face it, he's an ex player is pretty pathetic.
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06 Jul 23 5.23pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

So, who in your experienced opinion, should we sign that's going to give us top half finishes & possibly Europe.

Paddy learning from probably the most experience manger in the Prem, is a risk far better than anyone else, UNLESS they happen to be a Prem winner & fit in with the Palace ethos . . .

Who said anything about top half finishes? If Paddy Macarthy got the Palace job in a years time based on working as Roy's number 2 I'd be happy if we were still in touch of safety once they sacked him. Working as a number 2 no matter how much the players respect him means absolutely nothing when we are talking about his ability to take the top job.
Plus, thanks for describing my opinion as 'experienced' but you are wrong there (not for the first time it seems) I have only the experience of what I have witnessed down the years in all my time supporting Palace and watching football in general. Same as you I imagine. Only difference I can see is that I dont look at the clubs business decisions romantically. I look at things that make sensible business and footballing sense. For me? gambling £100m+ annual income an ex player whose done well with the reserves because, lets face it, he's an ex player is pretty pathetic.

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SarfNorwoodAl South Norwood 06 Jul 23 5.27pm
The players will be bored of Grandad by the New Year. The Greek pavaroti nutter at Forest would have sacked Cooper by then so Parish with his fake sun tan will put him in charge and start our long term plan. Sorted.
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South Norwood 06 Jul 23 5.27pm

The players will be bored of Grandad by the New Year. The Greek pavaroti nutter at Forest would have sacked Cooper by then so Parish with his fake sun tan will put him in charge and start our long term plan. Sorted.

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est1905 06 Jul 23 5.30pm
Originally posted by NEILLO But it’s all within context. We are not big enough to attract a “ World Class replacement “ as you say. So we would look to replace at a different level should we give the job to Paddy and it doesn’t work out. In the same way we would if an external hire didn’t . If in a years time Dougie and Roy think that Paddy is up to the task then he may get a chance I cant see how Dougie and Roy are going 'think Paddy is up to the task' based upon him doing a year in a number 2 role. You might as well give the job to Freedman. At least we know he has been a no.1 and can do the job. And before anyone says anything, I absolutely do NOT want Freedman anywhere near Palace's dug out either! What is Palace fans obsession with ex players? It makes no sense. There are loads of promising young managers out there with more experience than Paddy that would on paper at least do a better job if 'young upcoming coach' is the route Parish wants to go down. I'd suspect as a businessman that doesn't like risk then NOT.
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06 Jul 23 5.30pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

But it’s all within context.

We are not big enough to attract a “ World Class replacement “ as you say. So we would look to replace at a different level should we give the job to Paddy and it doesn’t work out. In the same way we would if an external hire didn’t .

If in a years time Dougie and Roy think that Paddy is up to the task then he may get a chance

I cant see how Dougie and Roy are going 'think Paddy is up to the task' based upon him doing a year in a number 2 role. You might as well give the job to Freedman. At least we know he has been a no.1 and can do the job. And before anyone says anything, I absolutely do NOT want Freedman anywhere near Palace's dug out either!
What is Palace fans obsession with ex players? It makes no sense. There are loads of promising young managers out there with more experience than Paddy that would on paper at least do a better job if 'young upcoming coach' is the route Parish wants to go down. I'd suspect as a businessman that doesn't like risk then NOT.

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est1905 06 Jul 23 5.32pm
Originally posted by YT There's a lot of pant-wetting on this topic. Roy is a good, proven manager, so why shouldn't he continue to lead us? All this stuff about not having a long-term plan; so what? Apart from Klopp and Pep, how many PL managers on a 3 or 4 year contract as part of yet another 'long-term plan' ever stay to the end before being sacked? Roy is our manager; end of. Let's get behind him and the team and have a rollickin' good season. Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am) Well said.
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est1905

06 Jul 23 5.32pm

Originally posted by YT

Edited by YT (06 Jul 2023 10.52am)

Well said.

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