The idea that those on the right are better looking than those on the left made me smile.

The truth is, of course, that as those on the right tend to be much more concerned with how things appear to be than in actually what they are, this spills over into the way they present themselves.

Look at Trump for the evidence.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

can we compare and contrast :

Dutch voters compared to All Voters ?

We can all be fairly confident that Wilders got all the votes from the relatives of Vincent Van Gogh....at least those of them that have survived to today.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Nov 2023 11.42am)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

From the BBC report on the Dutch election:
"But there was a collective gasp of disbelief when the exit polls flashed up on the screens and they huddled over their phones trying to understand what went wrong."

Again.

Just like Brexit, Trump's election victory and 2019 Tory election win. The "left" or "progressives" never learn.

They're so busy being morally and intellectually superior that they ignore others' points of view or concerns. They are so utterly convinced that their views are correct that any dissenting views from their own are regarded as misinformed, "populist" or uneducated.

I live in an area and come from a social background (Hove, and middle class) where this is incredibly visible. Ask a fairly comfortable, white Hove resident to converse or interact with a "working class" bod (or tradesman as they are sometimes known) and they get all Dick van Dykey in Mary Poppins trying to come across in the right way. It's comical.

A lot of them will congregate between the 80th minute and the end of stoppage time in the queue for the train on the way out of Falmer in an attempt to avoid having to mix with those types who may break into swearing or chanting behaviour so often seen in these working class fellows.

They will forever scratch their heads over how their own strong opinions are not gratefully seized upon by their inferiors in an election scenario.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

The central plank of 'the Right' is that my money pays for the raising of my own kids. Not somebody else's kids. And certainly not for an order of anonymous kids who grow up to hate me, hate my culture, and reject my nation.

The Social Contract died in the 1960's.

in terms of appearances......you can be unkempt & scruffy or groomed. It doesnt really matter.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Never forget that politicians of all colours allowed this to happen.

There was no voting your way out of it.

Even if you weren't against net migration figures like these and didn't care about increasing crime and lower social cohesion, living spaces and cultures being changed and displaced there is the wages and housing effects that numbers like these cause.

The statistics are all there to see. The affect on housing for example is easy to figure out.....but they did it anyway because it's always a can being kicked down for the next guy.....always taking the easy option to carry on because these people are careerists much more than they care about the country.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Nov 2023 12.33pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Whether or not they’ll have or prove to be any success in the Netherlands is unknown however, and I’d argue the same for ‘Brexit’, this result surely exhibits the outrageous belief of some people that flooding their homeland, which the indigenous people worked hard to build, with cultures and peoples from far less successful nations, is at best lacking in any logic. Little if no thought given to anything outside of this consideration.

Good luck to the Netherlands, hopefully unlike here it will yield the results the people want and not go the ‘Brexit’ way. My fear is that the lunacy the left has tried to install will only be countered by a hard right, with neither of those scenarios desirable, but we’ve reached such a juncture that the radical left is inevitably being exposed and increasingly rejected.

I only pray for common sense and rationality to prevail but do fear a swing from mass immigration, mutilation of children, BAME, LGBTQ etc. everything to near Nazism. It very much looks as though it’s beginning to happen but to what extent who knows? I feel as though it will happen eventually however, whether in my lifetime or beyond.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!