Every juror is Judge Pickles? How ridiculous - if they are supposed to have preconceptions then they can simply be briefed by the judge not to use them. It's actually probably because it's getting hard to find 12 people who speak English well enough in the UK now. I presume Islam always blames the woman too.

Red and Blue Army!

Try reading about the original analysis. Honestly, reading the Daily Mail is like you looking inside your soul, you will only find in there attitudes that support all of your preconceptions

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Doesn't even equate to anything I said. So enjoy the figures. It's also 12 years out. It will have changed by a few percent since. Obviously, I was exaggerating but that's presumably too nuanced - I'll just post in binary from now on. Of course, you don't believe, for example, Muslim viewpoints towards rape could effect sexual assault or rape trial?

Red and Blue Army!

The title of the thread is suggesting failure because of the low conviction rates.
The lack of reliable evidence in the majority of cases mean they never get to court.
The cases that proceed to court, the conviction rate is very low indeed. So probably a good question to ask is why the CPS allows such cases to proceed , knowing the prosecution evidence is lacking.

I disengage, I turn the page.

and yet high-profile stuff gets to court. I know most of it is civil claims where the judgement is based on balance of probability, as opposed to beyond reasonable doubt.
The trump case at the moment. 30 years since the event. Ridiculous, even by American standards of litigation.
But the UK has jimmy Savile, and other cases, notably Max Clifford , where historical crimes seemingly can be 'proved'.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (09 May 2023 6.31pm)

I disengage, I turn the page.

Too right. It's almost unfathomable really, something of a masterlcass in the depraved that tragically fell through the cracks of society..

- A sprinkling of 'a different time' (aka people retrospectively caring about behaviour that they cared less about at the time)

- Aspects of 'hiding in plain sight' . He basically admitted it on occasion, but as a 'joke'. Many societal misceants hide behind jokes that actually reveal their actual beliefs and/or conduct

- Using charity and powerful people to scare anyone from questioning his motives

-Being confrontational and also zany in his appearance and behaviour as to throw people off from questioning what he's really all about

I know for one that Louis Theroux had really trouble mentally getting his head around missing what Saville was all about even as rumours swirled, but I see it as being indicative of how he was more generally perceived, as basically a bit off the world and with rumours swirling, but not a monster. In restrospect of course how wrong most were. With some exceptions, he duped a nation.