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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jan 22 1.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays To me the two shots that hit Kennedy come from an elevated position behind him. If Oswald was innocent of killing Kennedy then why flee your job and scene, kill an officer and resist arrest? Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2022 12.36pm) He clearly had an exit wound in the back of his head. How does that happen when you are shot from behind? If you are a communist sympathizing assassin, why would you then deny responsibility after pulling off a major success? How does the rifle supposedly found in the book depository turn out to be a different one from the one Oswald owned? How did the so called magic bullet have no damage on it after passing through so many objects? It's impossible. Why did the warren commission and the CIA make so much effort trying to cover the facts up at the autopsy and beyond? How is it that so much witness testimony that destroyed the Oswald lone gunman theory was totally ignored or destroyed? How can we just accept that JFK, Bobby Kennedy and MLK were all killed by a lone gunman? Seriously? This is probably the most obvious conspiracy ever. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jan 2022 1.03pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

To me the two shots that hit Kennedy come from an elevated position behind him.

If Oswald was innocent of killing Kennedy then why flee your job and scene, kill an officer and resist arrest?

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2022 12.36pm)

He clearly had an exit wound in the back of his head. How does that happen when you are shot from behind?
If you are a communist sympathizing assassin, why would you then deny responsibility after pulling off a major success?

How does the rifle supposedly found in the book depository turn out to be a different one from the one Oswald owned?
How did the so called magic bullet have no damage on it after passing through so many objects? It's impossible.

Why did the warren commission and the CIA make so much effort trying to cover the facts up at the autopsy and beyond?

How is it that so much witness testimony that destroyed the Oswald lone gunman theory was totally ignored or destroyed?

How can we just accept that JFK, Bobby Kennedy and MLK were all killed by a lone gunman? Seriously?

This is probably the most obvious conspiracy ever.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jan 2022 1.03pm)

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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 22 1.51pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He clearly had an exit wound in the back of his head. How does that happen when you are shot from behind? If you are a communist sympathizing assassin, why would you then deny responsibility after pulling off a major success? My impression is that it's from high and the rear, both from the autopsy photo and video footage once it's slowed down...importantly once the head shot is slowed down you see the initial head momentum pushed forward before the nerve reaction throws him back....that was the final nail in that particular question for me. Well, Oswald tried to get away with it, that's why you would deny responsibility. Also, Oswald didn't kill Kennedy for the communists, he killed him because he was a disaffected misfit who saw an opportunity to affect the world. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How does the rifle supposedly found in the book depository turn out to be a different one from the one Oswald owned? Whether or not he owned it and I wouldn't know he seems to have used it....I mean his prints were on the weapon and on cardboard boxes in the room. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How did the so called magic bullet have no damage on it after passing through so many objects? It's impossible. From what I remember it's not actually accurate that it was undamaged and if you look into it there are ballistic experts who claim it's possible with bullets resulting from similar tests. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Why did the warren commission and the CIA make so much effort trying to cover the facts up at the autopsy and beyond? Apparently the autopsy wasn't documented properly. As the Warren commission included Robert Kennedy I very much doubt that there was complicity to hide anything suspicious related to his brother's murder. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How is it that so much witness testimony that destroyed the Oswald lone gunman theory was totally ignored or destroyed? Well, there is testimony and there is what actually happens. Cases often show up the difference between the two. In stressful situations people form inaccurate impressions all the time. It matters who the person is and whether and what they say can be verified and proven. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How can we just accept that JFK, Bobby Kennedy and MLK were all killed by a lone gunman? Seriously? This is probably the most obvious conspiracy ever. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jan 2022 1.03pm) All that really matters is what the evidence shows. Of those three I only really looked into JFK. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Jan 22 1.51pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He clearly had an exit wound in the back of his head. How does that happen when you are shot from behind?
If you are a communist sympathizing assassin, why would you then deny responsibility after pulling off a major success?

My impression is that it's from high and the rear, both from the autopsy photo and video footage once it's slowed down...importantly once the head shot is slowed down you see the initial head momentum pushed forward before the nerve reaction throws him back....that was the final nail in that particular question for me.

Well, Oswald tried to get away with it, that's why you would deny responsibility. Also, Oswald didn't kill Kennedy for the communists, he killed him because he was a disaffected misfit who saw an opportunity to affect the world.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How does the rifle supposedly found in the book depository turn out to be a different one from the one Oswald owned?

Whether or not he owned it and I wouldn't know he seems to have used it....I mean his prints were on the weapon and on cardboard boxes in the room.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How did the so called magic bullet have no damage on it after passing through so many objects? It's impossible.

From what I remember it's not actually accurate that it was undamaged and if you look into it there are ballistic experts who claim it's possible with bullets resulting from similar tests.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Why did the warren commission and the CIA make so much effort trying to cover the facts up at the autopsy and beyond?

Apparently the autopsy wasn't documented properly. As the Warren commission included Robert Kennedy I very much doubt that there was complicity to hide anything suspicious related to his brother's murder.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How is it that so much witness testimony that destroyed the Oswald lone gunman theory was totally ignored or destroyed?

Well, there is testimony and there is what actually happens. Cases often show up the difference between the two. In stressful situations people form inaccurate impressions all the time. It matters who the person is and whether and what they say can be verified and proven.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How can we just accept that JFK, Bobby Kennedy and MLK were all killed by a lone gunman? Seriously?

This is probably the most obvious conspiracy ever.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jan 2022 1.03pm)

All that really matters is what the evidence shows. Of those three I only really looked into JFK.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jan 22 2.19pm
An exit wound in the back of the head is not possible when shot from the back. That is fact. He must have been shot from the front, no matter what the film might appear to show or not show. There are numerous witnesses that heard shots from the fence on the grassy knoll. There were more than three shots, but that had to be covered up to sustain the lone gunman narrative, hence the magic bullet theory is invented. There were no fingerprints on the gun initially. They magically appeared afterwards. The magic bullet suddenly appeared on the stretcher. That is more than extremely unlikely. Ballistics tests by independent experts could not reproduce the condition of that bullet. Oswald was portrayed as a communist, when in fact he worked for the CIA and was involved with Cuban exiles against Castro. I haven't even mentioned Jack Ruby. That is a whole story on its own. Just watch the documentary. There are so many holes in the lone gunman theory that it just doesn't have credibility.
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15 Jan 22 2.19pm

An exit wound in the back of the head is not possible when shot from the back. That is fact.
He must have been shot from the front, no matter what the film might appear to show or not show. There are numerous witnesses that heard shots from the fence on the grassy knoll. There were more than three shots, but that had to be covered up to sustain the lone gunman narrative, hence the magic bullet theory is invented.

There were no fingerprints on the gun initially. They magically appeared afterwards.

The magic bullet suddenly appeared on the stretcher. That is more than extremely unlikely. Ballistics tests by independent experts could not reproduce the condition of that bullet.

Oswald was portrayed as a communist, when in fact he worked for the CIA and was involved with Cuban exiles against Castro.

I haven't even mentioned Jack Ruby. That is a whole story on its own.

Just watch the documentary. There are so many holes in the lone gunman theory that it just doesn't have credibility.

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Stirlingsays 15 Jan 22 3.32pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger An exit wound in the back of the head is not possible when shot from the back. That is fact. He must have been shot from the front, no matter what the film might appear to show or not show. There are numerous witnesses that heard shots from the fence on the grassy knoll. There were more than three shots, but that had to be covered up to sustain the lone gunman narrative, hence the magic bullet theory is invented. There were no fingerprints on the gun initially. They magically appeared afterwards. The magic bullet suddenly appeared on the stretcher. That is more than extremely unlikely. Ballistics tests by independent experts could not reproduce the condition of that bullet. Oswald was portrayed as a communist, when in fact he worked for the CIA and was involved with Cuban exiles against Castro. I haven't even mentioned Jack Ruby. That is a whole story on its own. Just watch the documentary. There are so many holes in the lone gunman theory that it just doesn't have credibility. I'll watch it out of respect Hrolf. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

15 Jan 22 3.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There were no fingerprints on the gun initially. They magically appeared afterwards.

The magic bullet suddenly appeared on the stretcher. That is more than extremely unlikely. Ballistics tests by independent experts could not reproduce the condition of that bullet.

Oswald was portrayed as a communist, when in fact he worked for the CIA and was involved with Cuban exiles against Castro.

I haven't even mentioned Jack Ruby. That is a whole story on its own.

Just watch the documentary. There are so many holes in the lone gunman theory that it just doesn't have credibility.

I'll watch it out of respect Hrolf.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jan 22 4.00pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'll watch it out of respect Hrolf. I'm confident on this one.
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15 Jan 22 4.00pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'll watch it out of respect Hrolf.

I'm confident on this one.

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mooro Within the Temples of Syrinx 18 Jan 22 11.48am
There's another theory that JFK was shot by one of his Secret Service Agents in error as his rifle fired in error after the first shot was dispatched. I visited Dallas a couple of years ago and had to see where it all happened as even though it occured in the year I was born, the video footage has stayed with me since I first saw it as a nipper. Dealey Plaza looks exactly the same as it did in 63 and have to admit was a haunting experience just to be there and also see inside of the Book Depository where LHO allegedly took his shot(s) from. I doubt we'll ever know what truly happened..... Edited by mooro (18 Jan 2022 11.49am) There's no sun, the shadow of the wizard.......
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Within the Temples of Syrinx 18 Jan 22 11.48am

There's another theory that JFK was shot by one of his Secret Service Agents in error as his rifle fired in error after the first shot was dispatched.
I visited Dallas a couple of years ago and had to see where it all happened as even though it occured in the year I was born, the video footage has stayed with me since I first saw it as a nipper. Dealey Plaza looks exactly the same as it did in 63 and have to admit was a haunting experience just to be there and also see inside of the Book Depository where LHO allegedly took his shot(s) from. I doubt we'll ever know what truly happened.....

Edited by mooro (18 Jan 2022 11.49am)

There's no sun, the shadow of the wizard.......

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 22 4.36pm
Originally posted by mooro There's another theory that JFK was shot by one of his Secret Service Agents in error as his rifle fired in error after the first shot was dispatched. I visited Dallas a couple of years ago and had to see where it all happened as even though it occured in the year I was born, the video footage has stayed with me since I first saw it as a nipper. Dealey Plaza looks exactly the same as it did in 63 and have to admit was a haunting experience just to be there and also see inside of the Book Depository where LHO allegedly took his shot(s) from. I doubt we'll ever know what truly happened..... Edited by mooro (18 Jan 2022 11.49am) The secret to the whole affair was the control of information. The CIA jumped on everything to control the narrative. There are only two reasons why that would happen. They were behind it, or they didn't want us to know who was. Oswald was an obvious patsy, and he was killed because a court case risked exposing his innocence. Zapruder's film is shocking and informative, but there is another film taken by Orville Nix which actually shows the grassy knoll at the time of the shooting. The original went 'missing' after being given to authorities for analysis.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Jan 22 4.36pm

Originally posted by mooro

Edited by mooro (18 Jan 2022 11.49am)

The secret to the whole affair was the control of information. The CIA jumped on everything to control the narrative.
There are only two reasons why that would happen. They were behind it, or they didn't want us to know who was.
Oswald was an obvious patsy, and he was killed because a court case risked exposing his innocence.

Zapruder's film is shocking and informative, but there is another film taken by Orville Nix which actually shows the grassy knoll at the time of the shooting. The original went 'missing' after being given to authorities for analysis.

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