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Spiderman Horsham 24 Aug 21 4.46pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
Just to clarify....it was only ever sexual acts between men that were illegal, so 50% of the gay community were never criminalised in the first place. A useless piece of information brought to you by Hol own Granny Something you want to tell us Becky?
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Spiderman Horsham 24 Aug 21 4.47pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Pfft, John Hurt made that film for nothing then. The Naked Civil Servant, what a very good film it was, brilliant acting
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 Aug 21 4.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
The Naked Civil Servant, what a very good film it was, brilliant acting Totally agree, along with Elephant Man & Alien
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YT Oxford 24 Aug 21 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Totally agree, along with Elephant Man & Alien Two great movies, although John Hurt was barely in 'Alien'.
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Teddy Eagle 24 Aug 21 6.18pm | |
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One question. Are you an actor? He said he was a right laugh.
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Stirlingsays 24 Aug 21 6.27pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I agree in general, but not in this instance for two reasons. 1) The police enforced homophobic laws within living memory 2) The police are sending out a message that homophobic crime wont be tolerated. This may be a cheap way to prevent a few crimes I don't agree that there were any 'homophobic' laws. I think that's part of what's been sold to people in how to think of that era...one I lived through. I even disagree with the term 'homophobic' being institutionally present in the UK since the seventies. As for point two, isn't the point of the Police that they don't tolerate crime? (unless you're doing weed apparently). If you think it's a good idea to paint Police cars....which I don't, why wouldn't it be painted with messages against far more common crimes?....No, this is political messaging. Originally posted by jeeagles
I agree again. I'd go further than this and say that LGB rights are unrelated to Trans right as whilst there is a correlation between sexuality and gender dysmorphia the two aren't linked. Stonewall has run out out LGB issues to campaign for and is now cashing in on a new campaign. Sure, but as you say these activist groups regard them as all under their alphabet. So, in affect it's part of their tribe and it's their campaigning that leads to the laws being changed and these problems existing.....even though we know there are plenty who don't like the approach of this activism....but it isn't their take and voice being funded to the tune of millions. Children's lives are being destroyed in the US and the pressure is on here. Originally posted by jeeagles
Was legalised in England in 1967, anti-homosexual legislation still existed in other parts of the UK until 2013. What 'anti homosexual legislation'. I view that term as political personally. Originally posted by jeeagles
Agreed, but no one sensible advocates violence against anyone who hasn't done anything to harm anyone else. Fact is, hate-crime against LGB is frequent, you could still use homophobic slurs now and many wouldn't blink an eyelid. if you used a slur against the BAME community you'd lose your job. That's the promoting of black swan events to justify the forcing of alphabet ideologies onto the majority. We obviously seriously disagree here......I call people what I want to call them. The fact that there are now laws against that is a direct abuse of my freedom. If a company wants to sack you for saying something....ok, if that's their culture.....but that should be the extent of it. The US first amendment on speech is meant to protect all speech and that's how I think society should run. I view speech censorship laws and culture as anti freedom and anti western. It's certainly why comedy is sh1t today. Originally posted by jeeagles
I totally agree that this is not acceptable. Many LGB that its ridiculous that a self identifying trans man can change in the same changing room as women and girls too. I disagree with the idea of gender sterotypes, just because a boy is effeminate or a girl is into masculine things doesn't mean they are they were born into the wrong sex, nothing is wrong with them, they've just got different interests to what's typical. Well, all that puts you at odds with the alphabet ideologies.....which our Police are apparently strong supporters of Originally posted by jeeagles
I don't see much wrong with telling them that some men love men, and some women love women. I do....In fact since sex education was introduced into schools....and I remember it because it started in the early 80s. All the claims that the advocates made for it didn't come true....in fact all the metrics worsened. Originally posted by jeeagles
There is a difference between acceptance and promotion. It's yet another example of social liberalism worsening social outcomes but ignoring or providing excuses for the metrics. You can disagree all you like I suppose. But all the social outcome metrics are there....social liberalism has worsened stability and cohesion in every sense. Originally posted by jeeagles
The reality is that any increase in same sex relationships drops birth ratesThere's too many people in the world, not necessarily a bad thing, Really? So is this you saying you don't want a pension then? There are many many problems related to birth rates and it's a huge topic that I can't service properly here. Originally posted by jeeagles
increases promiscuity in malesMales are always promiscuous, but I that by alienating young gay men it can leave them in a vulnerable to the less disable aspects of the gay community (drugs, dodgy apps etc), we need need to support the best way of guiding young men away from that underworld is by winning their trust, lessens social cohesion and leads to an increase in several violence metrics later in life. By showing support for the gay community, it might reduce crime against the gay community by making people think twice before they do it The metrics for homosexual males are more promiscuous, the point is that children are being told this is an equal lifestyle when the actual reality is that in future metrics like relationship averages/stability, number of partners and violence the metrics show the lifestyle has never been equal in social outcomes. You seem to be blaming society for this, which seems to the default leftist response for this....even if that were true, which I strongly disagree with. It doesn't change the fact that children shouldn't be pointed towards outcomes as equal when they aren't. As I say, in my view, it's misplaced empathy over common sense. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Aug 2021 6.30pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Aug 21 10.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I call people what I want to call them. The fact that there are now laws against that is a direct abuse of my freedom.
Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Aug 2021 6.30pm) You frequently make this kind of claim, but it just isn't true. It's the kind of attitude which powers places like Gab, but it is, in my opinion, a very dangerous myth. Ever since humans formed into groups, individuals gave up control over their personal freedoms. Initially to the strongest in the group. In the west, it's now to the democratic consensus. Your freedom cannot be abused because you don't actually possess any. Not of the kind you espouse. If it's what is really important to you, then go buy an island, declare yourself independent, be prepared to fight off alone all who would take what you have by force, and then you can claim you are free. Whilst you live in a community, then you have no choice other to accept that there will be laws you don't like, but enough others do for them to be the law. Making those laws is not an abuse of anyone's freedom. It's an expression of that consensus. We are all granted freedoms, by the rest of us, but under the laws which requires us to accept responsibility for adhering to the standards demanded of us. So call people whatever you wish, under your breath, in private. Do so out loud, in writing or in public, and you are bound by the law. Laws which you have every right to argue need to be changed, but must be followed until they are.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 24 Aug 21 11.30pm | |
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I used an American example, the grammar is correct. Originally posted by Spiderman
Maybe he is American, can’t be racist now eagleman
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 25 Aug 21 11.51pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What a lash-up. Apart from the rainbow its got a black BMW bonnet and monster white spoiler. Should be banned as offensive to public taste. If I get stopped I will rely on my Dick Emery impression. 'Ooooooh you are awful'. Scratch your eyes out honky tonk.
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BlueJay UK 26 Aug 21 2.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Certainly a few dicks in here so if only we did have a couple of emery's for an altenative view. My take is that of course this is political, but it's not even like it helps cut down on targetted crime anyway. It's a pointless gesture that achieves little (along the lines of Wilf's thoughts on taking the knee). As someone else said is this car driving around Birmingham? I doubt it.
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BlueJay UK 26 Aug 21 3.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Aug 2021 6.30pm) Ermm well no you don't, and nor will you. It's comical to see the pearl clutching aghast at perceived attacks of not being able to 'call people what I want' (which in the clear context of course means being unhappy about not being able to call gay men f*****s) while at the same time saying that a 'water is wet' statement in schools such as 'some men love men, and some women love women' should not be uttered. A very selective calling of freedom of speech where it achieves the demeaning of said individuals, not where it reveals a basic truth (that they love). It's a ridiculous car, anchored onto by someone who routinely posts dead eyed tomes about social groups he isn't keen on featuring absolutely ludicrous leaps and associations (such as the one in this thread crowbarring in how apparently these groups are more in alignment of approval of child sex?!). Though of course when the shoe is on the other foot and we highlight that you offered support and sang the praises of a group led by a known neo-nazi (whose girlfriend has a massive Swaztika tattoo, lovely!), we're supposed to either not talk about that or imagine that it means nothing at all. Clearly the link and free pass to said individual and his views is in much, much closer proximity than many of the fantasy connections made here about groups you're not keen on. It's clear who the free pass goes to. This repeatedly generalised anger aimed at whole swathes of the population (with exceptions where they're in complete lockstep with your view) is not befitting of a place that is supposed to be for all fans. Edited by BlueJay (27 Aug 2021 2.12am)
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Crazy_Eagle South London 26 Aug 21 3.22pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
b. somebody wrote a rude word online
a. Despite what angry baby boomers think
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