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  georgenorman  30 Aug 22 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
What proof do you have that it's been a 'characteristic of Caribbean culture'? 'From the start'. From the start of what? Dear oh dear. 'Nail in the coffin of our way of life' In what way? Be specific. Honestly, it seems you keep letting your BNP slip show. Silly boy. Hahaha! Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) I expect he was referring to the endemic knife, gun and drug crime in the black 'community'.
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cryrst  The garden of England 30 Aug 22 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
What proof do you have that it's been a 'characteristic of Caribbean culture'? 'From the start'. From the start of what? Dear oh dear. 'Nail in the coffin of our way of life' In what way? Be specific. Honestly, it seems you keep letting your BNP slip show. Silly boy.
Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) [Link]
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| Glazier#1 30 Aug 22 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I expect he was referring to the endemic knife, gun and drug crime in the black 'community'. But not endemic in the white 'community'?! If you're suggesting that it's only blacks then it's preposterous.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 30 Aug 22 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
But not endemic in the white 'community'?! If you're suggesting that it's only blacks then it's preposterous. correct. I mean there is just as much drugs & violence at the St Patricks day festival or the Chelsea Flower show. I even heard that Krufts had a pitbull category added this year.
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| Glazier#1 30 Aug 22 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
[Link] The stats quoted to the committee are about young blacks. These are black (mostly men) who are BRITISH, regardless of the colour of their skin, and not Caribbean. So equating those figures with comments about 'Caribbean culture' is just wrong. This is about young, black, British culture. The reasons for that may be entirely different. My gosh, why do you need me to point this out to you?!
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| Glazier#1 30 Aug 22 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
correct. I mean there is just as much drugs & violence at the St Patricks day festival or the Chelsea Flower show. I even heard that Krufts had a pitbull category added this year. So, the white community only comprises of events like the Chelsea Flower Show and crufts? These, as I'm sure you know, are generally only one part of the white community., not generally known for patronage by the poor. Knife crime is endemic both in certain parts of both the black and white communities, not exclusive to either and the same can be said of drug culture. I would hazard a guess that knife crime is most common amongst the poorer in society. It is this facet that I would want to be looking at. How can we make it possible for the poorer to be more socially mobile, so that flogging weed, coke and crack isn't the best way to attain social standing. Social mobility is the key imo, to both black and white poorer classes. Having written that, your post did make me chuckle, Pal.
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| cryrst The garden of England 30 Aug 22 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
The stats quoted to the committee are about young blacks. These are black (mostly men) who are BRITISH, regardless of the colour of their skin, and not Caribbean. So equating those figures with comments about 'Caribbean culture' is just wrong. This is about young, black, British culture. The reasons for that may be entirely different. My gosh, why do you need me to point this out to you?! But young British blacks will tell you they are culturally and related to and from the West Indies/ Caribbean. You are black I guess and if asked would say firstly West Indian and secondly British. Unless you are the exception to the rule. Most blacks I know say such.
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| cryrst The garden of England 30 Aug 22 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
So, the white community only comprises of events like the Chelsea Flower Show and crufts? These, as I'm sure you know, are generally only one part of the white community., not generally known for patronage by the poor. Knife crime is endemic both in certain parts of both the black and white communities, not exclusive to either and the same can be said of drug culture. I would hazard a guess that knife crime is most common amongst the poorer in society. It is this facet that I would want to be looking at. How can we make it possible for the poorer to be more socially mobile, so that flogging weed, coke and crack isn't the best way to attain social standing. Social mobility is the key imo, to both black and white poorer classes. Having written that, your post did make me chuckle, Pal. Why can’t you isolate white and black. Is it because it skews your figures. Only 15% of the uk are non white indigenous so why is it more that that ratio on the receiving end and on the doing end of stabbing. That’s aside from the jail population which no doubt you think is racist.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 30 Aug 22 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Why can’t you isolate white and black. Is it because it skews your figures. Only 15% of the uk are non white indigenous so why is it more that that ratio on the receiving end and on the doing end of stabbing. That’s aside from the jail population which no doubt you think is racist. Why do we never talk about Glasgow's knife and crime problem on here? Far exceeds anything that happened at Notting Hill Carnival.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 30 Aug 22 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
But young British blacks will tell you they are culturally and related to and from the West Indies/ Caribbean. You are black I guess and if asked would say firstly West Indian and secondly British. Unless you are the exception to the rule. Most blacks I know say such. Not if they're of African descent, they won't
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| Glazier#1 30 Aug 22 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
But young British blacks will tell you they are culturally and related to and from the West Indies/ Caribbean. You are black I guess and if asked would say firstly West Indian and secondly British. Unless you are the exception to the rule. Most blacks I know say such. So, all black faces, all members of black gangs are of Caribbean ethnicity. No African heritage in there then? Oh dear oh dear.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 30 Aug 22 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
What proof do you have that it's been a 'characteristic of Caribbean culture'? 'From the start'. From the start of what? 'Nail in the coffin of our way of life' In what way? Be specific. Honestly, it seems you keep letting your BNP slip show. Silly boy.
Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Aug 2022 12.55pm) From the beginning of large numbers of Jamaicans arriving in Britain. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Aug 2022 5.18pm)
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