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Stirlingsays 20 Jun 21 1.56am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It's true democracy but shambolic. Anybody could stand up in the town square and say their piece the best orators naturally won the argument. The problem was the following day somebody else would argue the opposite and they also would win the day. Athens ended up flip flopping all over the place but it certainly was pure democracy. For me it's more about only men and land owners getting a say....which I suppose in the modern day would be home owners. A bit tongue in cheek but still... I view democracy as I view the jury system, 7/10 participants just don't have the IQ to do it justice....if you pardon the pun.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 20 Jun 21 4.43am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Or whisky
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chris123 hove actually 20 Jun 21 8.52am | |
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One problem for me with PR, is hung parliaments. At a national level we aren't very good at coalitions.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Jun 21 10.49am | |
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Great if you like Spartans taking over your city and only men can vote. No foreigners were allowed to vote either. It is ironic the Athenians invented the concept of democracy when you see the shambles they are a couple of millenia later. They had a big party at the EU's expense and not a sign of mea culpa. People with 2/3 government pensions sitting outside all day drinking coffee. No wonder the Cretans for example not keen on Athens. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I kinda like how they did it in Athens back at the start. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 5.07pm)
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Stirlingsays 20 Jun 21 11.17am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Great if you like Spartans taking over your city and only men can vote. No foreigners were allowed to vote either. It is ironic the Athenians invented the concept of democracy when you see the shambles they are a couple of millenia later. They had a big party at the EU's expense and not a sign of mea culpa. People with 2/3 government pensions sitting outside all day drinking coffee. No wonder the Cretans for example not keen on Athens. The ancient Greeks achieved amazing things....the modern Greeks....fluked a Euros win...that's about it. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2021 11.20am)
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chris123 hove actually 20 Jun 21 2.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The ancient Greeks achieved amazing things....the modern Greeks....fluked a Euros win...that's about it. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2021 11.20am) Feta?
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cryrst The garden of England 20 Jun 21 2.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The ancient Greeks achieved amazing things....the modern Greeks....fluked a Euros win...that's about it. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2021 11.20am) How was your break. Did you find the ballroom bar and babysitting service or were you model
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jun 21 6.30pm | |
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I'd prefer a Rolex.
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Stirlingsays 20 Jun 21 7.47pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
How was your break. Did you find the ballroom bar and babysitting service or were you model I'm not leaving anyone alone with our two.....We'd find the babysitter buried in the garden. I did like the idea of getting drunk at Butlins but we played it safe.....nope, rather exotic ice cream mixtures was as interesting as it got.
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Stirlingsays 20 Jun 21 7.51pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Feta? Do you eat that? I've always steered clear myself, just like I've never eaten black pudding or haggis.
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jeeagles 20 Jun 21 8.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For me it's more about only men and land owners getting a say....which I suppose in the modern day would be home owners. A bit tongue in cheek but still... I view democracy as I view the jury system, 7/10 participants just don't have the IQ to do it justice....if you pardon the pun. Agree with you to an extent. For example, all able bodied adults should be capable of acquiring an ID to allow them to vote. But if you go down the line of IQ tests to vote, at some point you'll start stopping disabled people from voting which isn't right. The main reason why you shouldn't leave the democratic process to "intellectuals" is best explained by the final seen in the World's End. Some of the wise men of the past are responsible for a lot of humanities most stupid decisions
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Teddy Eagle 20 Jun 21 8.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Do you eat that? I've always steered clear myself, just like I've never eaten black pudding or haggis. Haggis is delicious! Being an English Philistine I prefer it battered from a chip shop but the regular stuff is nice too.
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