Good boy, you're learning quickly! Keep at it and we won't have to listen to your trite left wing dogma for too much longer. Which will be wonderful.

No-one needs to go hungry, due to the welfare system. It is a parent's prime responsibility to keep their kids safe and fed. All the rest comes after that.

Ok, let's take an example then.

Mother, single parent, one 12 year old. No family support, she works as much as she can to support her kid and sacrifices all personal luxuries.

She get 450 a month from universal credit, no extra for housing benefit or child support. She works minimum wage, but hours have been cut sown during pandemic so she makes about 700 a month.

But she pays 600 a month rent, plus bills is 750. She's paying back a loan which she took out a couple months ago when UC was delayed and that's another 100 out. 100 for travel for the month, and she gives her kid a tenner a week. If she buys no clothes, presents, drinks, meals out or any extras, that leaves £60 a month to feed both of them, just under £15 for the weekly shop.

When it gets to the holiday, she wants to stay and look after her kid, but has to go to work to pay bills, so she can't guarantee that her kid is having lunch.

2 questions for you. 1 what would you do in her position. 2 Do you think the state should support this situation by offering meals through the holidays?

Edited by serial thriller (22 Oct 2020 7.04pm)

Ok, let's take an example then.

Mother, single parent, one 12 year old. No family support, she works as much as she can to support her kid and sacrifices all personal luxuries.

She get 450 a month from universal credit, no extra for housing benefit or child support. She works minimum wage, but hours have been cut sown during pandemic so she makes about 700 a month.

But she pays 600 a month rent, plus bills is 750. She's paying back a loan which she took out a couple months ago when UC was delayed and that's another 100 out. 100 for travel for the month, and she gives her kid a tenner a week. If she buys no clothes, presents, drinks, meals out or any extras, that leaves £60 a month to feed both of them, just under £15 for the weekly shop.

When it gets to the holiday, she wants to stay and look after her kid, but has to go to work to pay bills, so she can't guarantee that her kid is having lunch.

2 questions for you. 1 what would you do in her position. 2 Do you think the state should support this situation by offering meals to kids through the holidays?

Edited by serial thriller (22 Oct 2020 7.05pm)

Ok, let's take an example then.

Mother, single parent, one 12 year old. No family support, she works as much as she can to support her kid and sacrifices all personal luxuries.

She get 450 a month from universal credit, no extra for housing benefit or child support. She works minimum wage, but hours have been cut sown during pandemic so she makes about 700 a month.

But she pays 600 a month rent, plus bills is 750. She's paying back a loan which she took out a couple months ago when UC was delayed and that's another 100 out. 100 for travel for the month, and she gives her kid a tenner a week. If she buys no clothes, presents, drinks, meals out or any extras, that leaves £60 a month to feed both of them, just under £15 for the weekly shop.

When it gets to the holiday, she wants to stay and look after her kid, but has to go to work to pay bills, so she can't guarantee that her kid is having lunch.

2 questions for you. 1 what would you do in her position. 2 Do you think the state should support this situation by offering meals to kids through the holidays?

Edited by serial thriller (22 Oct 2020 7.05pm)

How contrived is that situation? Tell the dad to pay.

I agree that there would be plenty of undeserving parents, or even one or no parents or whatever.
However, again, it's not the kid's fault is it?
Personally my father left when I was young. His maintenance was 1 pound a week. He didn't pay that even. Should we then think f€ck the kids, the parents are sh1t? Still doesn't help anyone. Perhaps one of these poor kids could end up like Rashford, or he could end up in jail, he or she could play for Palace, could be a doctor, could work in the Pound Shop, could win a World Cup for England - who knows? Surely we can have the grace to ensure they at least have food, regardless of other sh1t that may go on in their life? I applaud Rashford for this - he seems a decent person. And I despise the undeserving scroungers as much as anyone - but hungry kids, they deserve our support.