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ChrisGC Wantage 12 Feb 19 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Now, if people wish to talk 'street language' with all the economic and social issues that visits upon their prospects then good luck to them. For every Stormzy or Green that makes it there will be countless that don't. However, the message that poor language skills and choices don't deserve any criticism isn't a good one in my estimation. Good schools fight that battle on a daily basis. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Feb 2019 6.28pm) Correct. It's also embarrassing. The whole world might be killing itself to appear liberal and tolerant, but nobody ever walked out of a job interview having got the position having spoken street if the next man spoke the queen's English.
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ChrisGC Wantage 12 Feb 19 10.46pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Again, which accents/dialects like this aren’t made up? It’s such a null point. Stormzy and Professor Green both grew up in areas where they would have been surrounded by people speaking like that, and unsurprisingly picked it up - why do they deserve criticism for that? Accents aren't made up as a matter of fact, they are deeply rooted in the dialects and colloquialisms of a particular area going back centuries. Interestingly, regional accents can be so unique that experts can pinpoint them down to a town. The hoax Yorkshire ripper tapes sent by that nutter, for example: they tracked him down to his village by analysing his speech patterns and colloquialisms. This street stuff is completely made up over the last ten years or so and is immitated from Glasgow to London. There is nothing natural or unique about it. They could very easily make the decision to just not sound like someone suffering a brain injury, but they don't. Innit, blud.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Feb 19 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Switch it on and off? How's that a real accent then? I can switch on and off a pretty decent jock accent, doesn't make me Scottish. It's a load of bollox. Speak properly (with a regional accent) and have a bit of pride FFS. somebody from, say, llandudno/edinburgh/Cork who works in London will speak differently at home with family than the way they speak to buy a capuccino at Clapham Junction. The former accent is your preferred accent , the latter is necessary to get the bleeding coffee sometime today. i have a theory that very many hollywood actors spent their formative years in more than one city. And that the experience did put manners on their speech patterns. Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Feb 2019 11.00pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Feb 19 11.05pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
somebody from, say, llandudno/edinburgh/Cork who works in London will speak differently at home with family than the way they speak to buy a capuccino at Clapham Junction. The former accent is your preferred accent , the latter is necessary to get the bleeding coffee sometime today. i have a theory that very many hollywood actors spent their formative years in more than one city. And that the experience did put manners on their speech patterns. Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Feb 2019 11.00pm) They’re still going to sound Irish instead of Oirish or Scottish instead of Schcottish, och aye dannoo, just like a ridiculous sounding street talker will still have that street sound and won’t get the internship let alone job in the office professional workplace in central London.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Feb 19 11.31pm | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Accents aren't made up as a matter of fact, they are deeply rooted in the dialects and colloquialisms of a particular area going back centuries. Interestingly, regional accents can be so unique that experts can pinpoint them down to a town. The hoax Yorkshire ripper tapes sent by that nutter, for example: they tracked him down to his village by analysing his speech patterns and colloquialisms. This street stuff is completely made up over the last ten years or so and is immitated from Glasgow to London. There is nothing natural or unique about it. They could very easily make the decision to just not sound like someone suffering a brain injury, but they don't. Innit, blud. i must confess to being surprised when a footballer is interviewed and he sounds Croydon to my ears, and then his wiki page tells me he is from somewhere up tut North.
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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 12 Feb 19 11.54pm | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Accents aren't made up as a matter of fact, they are deeply rooted in the dialects and colloquialisms of a particular area going back centuries. Interestingly, regional accents can be so unique that experts can pinpoint them down to a town. The hoax Yorkshire ripper tapes sent by that nutter, for example: they tracked him down to his village by analysing his speech patterns and colloquialisms. This street stuff is completely made up over the last ten years or so and is immitated from Glasgow to London. There is nothing natural or unique about it. They could very easily make the decision to just not sound like someone suffering a brain injury, but they don't. Innit, blud. Sorry to throw a spanner in a somewhat bizarre discussion, but there are regional dialects within "street" talk. An urban youth from Manchester talking street sounds different to one from London, from Birmingham, from Leeds, From Liverpool etc. They are a product of their environment. Back to the original post... is there something forcing you to watch Sky Sports? I don't get it.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Feb 19 12.08am | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Sorry to throw a spanner in a somewhat bizarre discussion about bizarre accents, but there are regional dialects within "street" talk. An urban youth from Manchester talking street sounds different to one from London, from Birmingham, from Leeds, From Liverpool etc. They are bellends, ruining their future. Back to the original post... is there something forcing you to watch Sky Sports? I don't get it. True.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Feb 19 12.17am | |
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Black people around these parts never used to sound like this. They sounded like everyone else. Then some wanted to sound differently, and guess what, they’ll be treated differently in frustrating moments for them in the future. They won’t get past the recruitment consultant. Good luck there, bredren. You get me? Know what I’m saying? You could say ‘oh well’ but it’ll cause more issues down the road.
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Stirlingsays 13 Feb 19 12.26am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Black people around these parts never used to sound like this. They sounded like everyone else. Then some wanted to sound differently, and guess what, they’ll be treated differently in frustrating moments for them in the future. They won’t get past the recruitment consultant. Good luck there, bredren. You get me? Know what I’m saying? You could say ‘oh well’ but it’ll cause more issues down the road. Yeah....Ali G is for real...you get me.
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Pussay Patrol 13 Feb 19 5.18am | |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Sorry to throw a spanner in a somewhat bizarre discussion, but there are regional dialects within "street" talk. An urban youth from Manchester talking street sounds different to one from London, from Birmingham, from Leeds, From Liverpool etc. They are a product of their environment. Back to the original post... is there something forcing you to watch Sky Sports? I don't get it. No, it's this general white middle class chip on the shoulder bigotry which is a theme on this area of the forum
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Feb 19 6.14am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No, it's this general white middle class chip on the shoulder bigotry which is a theme on this area of the forum Every thread appears the same to you.
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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 13 Feb 19 6.48am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No, it's this general white middle class chip on the shoulder bigotry which is a theme on this area of the forum It's comical, tiresome, predictable and absolutely dire at the same time
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