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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 18 9.58am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You just want to keep your stuff....that's the type of Tory you are Willo. You'd support anyone who enabled that.....I'm afraid I require a little more. You know....like actually believing in traditional conservatism and not trying to copy the social policies of your opposition. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Dec 2018 9.52am) Ideologically I am with the ERG and one of the "Hard-right brexiteers".At the end of the day the Conservative Party is a broad church and of course I speak with those who take a slightly different view.
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chris123 hove actually 13 Dec 18 10.01am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The blue rinsers you mean. The same twits who voted in Cameron over Davies. Blimey - that was 2005 and it's the MP's who vote.
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Mapletree Croydon 13 Dec 18 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
In terms of the leadership challenge,whilst May won I don't think it was a great cause for celebration. 117 Conservative MPs voted against her which is a third of the parliamentary party.And one suspects that some of the 200 who voted for her might have included some who did so not because they have confidence in her but did so as they did not wish for a leadership contest at this juncture. She achieved a higher number of votes than when she was elected to the role. Do you see that as progress for her?
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Stirlingsays 13 Dec 18 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'm not critising him personally for his background, my point was that his privilege has got him into political power and he's hardly a man of the people Maybe pomposity and arrogance are qualities you admire?
You are essentially saying that if you are wealthy that this means that you can't make it without that privilege. A more accurate statement would be to say that coming from that background would make it easier. However, Mogg is clearly a highly intelligent man and highly intelligent people tend to succeed (if given fair luck) in most professions they enter into that require intelligence.
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Stirlingsays 13 Dec 18 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Ideologically I am with the ERG and one of the "Hard-right brexiteers".At the end of the day the Conservative Party is a broad church and of course I speak with those who take a slightly different view. I was a little too harsh....apologies.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 18 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'm not critising him personally for his background, my point was that his privilege has got him into political power and he's hardly a man of the people Maybe pomposity and arrogance are qualities you admire? Having met JRM on more than one occasion these are not traits that I discovered in him at all.He is a man devoted to his family and not someone haloed by self-righteousness.He is a savant,a man of erudition and someone who is always polite and exudes charm.I found him the very quintessence of respectability.
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Stirlingsays 13 Dec 18 10.09am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Blimey - that was 2005 and it's the MP's who vote. Yep...I haven't forgotten.....and as for blue rinsers....there were still plenty of blue rinsers back then....'wets' as Thatcher correctly called them.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 18 10.12am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
She achieved a higher number of votes than when she was elected to the role. Do you see that as progress for her? I think Theresa May got 199 votes in the first ballot for the leadership but yesterday's challenge was different. I happen to believe that when 117 MPs representing over a third of the parliamentary party register the fact they don't have confidence in her this is not a cause for any great celebration.The thinking was that if the "Nos" were in the region of 100+ this would represent a bad result for the PM.
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Painter Croydon 13 Dec 18 10.21am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Created as in followed what was promised in the 2015 manifesto and presumably some people liked enough to vote for? Who created the manifesto? It’s quite easy to fool the public, they just tell them the bits they want to hear, none of the negatives. Farage, Johnson and Gove past masters at deception.
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chris123 hove actually 13 Dec 18 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Who created the manifesto? It’s quite easy to fool the public, they just tell them the bits they want to hear, none of the negatives. Farage, Johnson and Gove past masters at deception. No healthy scepticism when it comes to politics?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Dec 18 10.52am | |
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5 pages and nobody's asked would you? Yes is my answer.
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Painter Croydon 13 Dec 18 11.17am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Created as in followed what was promised in the 2015 manifesto and presumably some people liked enough to vote for? Who created the manifesto? It’s quite easy to fool the public, they just tell them the bits they want to hear, none of the negatives. Farage, Johnson and Gove past masters at deception.
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