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YT Oxford 12 Jan 18 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
I'm not trying to be a know it all here, but it appears incredibly insane to spend 10 million on Diafra Sakho and bid for Arfield. You have let's say a squad like Palace's: you need a gk, you need a better right wingback than Ward, you definitely need strikers who score goals, cover on the wings for Zaha and Townsend. Where can you get the money from? Well, only by selling players. Which players can actually bring money in? Riedewald was a suggestion, but with Dann's long injury selling a center back is out of the question. So you get to have 25 million to spend. Get Andone from Deportivo who is an amazingly dedicated striker (runs up and down and harasses defenders) and is in bad terms momentarily with the management there. They didn't sell for 13 million in the summer, but they would now. This would be the marque signing. Get Nils Petersen from Freiburg (incredibly underrated and playing for a team so small that it couldn't ask for more than 7 million- Freiburg: 48 goals in 92 games for Freiburg in the Bundesliga, but actually in just 4800 minutes played). Get a 3rd striker for free- Asamoah Gyan, Obafemi Martins, Emenike- whichever one is fit and the club is willing to part with. Even Cheick Diabate, cause he's out of contract. Or Imoh Ezekiel, 24 year old formerly of Standard Liege and Anderlecht. He's out of contract and is definitely fit. Not the best striker in terms of scoring, but he's incredibly fast and would be much better than Frazier Campbell as 4th striker. I think he eve scored against Tottenham in the Europa League 2 years ago. Get a left footed winger from: For right back go for Danny da Costa from Eintracht. Do you know this guy? He's a beast. Look him up on the internet if you don't know him. Physically powerful, but fast as well, runs up and down the flank, just 24, played a lot for Germany U21. He hardly played for Eintracht this year. They bought him in the summer for just 1 million. They play 3-5-2 and use Timothy Chandler or Wolf on Danny da Costa's position. All other young right backs who I like would cost 5 million or more: Yedlin, Rafael from Lyon, Mitchell Weiser from Hertha, Passlack from Hoffe, Widmer from Udinese, Alexander Arnold, Ricardo Esgaio from Braga, so having no money it would be logical to go for Danny da Costa as he'd be available at the price they got him for cause they just don't use him. There would also be Figueiras from Olympiakos as an option. Great going forward, was a starter with Milivojevic there, but this year Elabdellaoui played more. They're listening to offers around 1 million for him too. As right footed winger you'd need someone who accepts to be a backup for Zaha, at least at first. There was talk about Elyounousi, a fine young player, but he;d cost like 10 million. I thought of Nani, the former United winger, who's now 31, passed through Sporting, Valencia and is now at Lazio. Did a good Euro tournament 1 year ago. But he wants playing time. I thought about Cavaleiro from Wolverhampton, but they're fighting for promotion and wouldn't sell. Plus, I have no money left, what can I get? That's my 25 million spent right there, without asking for a single dime from the ownership. Oh yeah, I haven;t gotten a goalkeeper yet. That's cause I know the best one and he's almost free! Diego Alves, the Brazilian goalkeeper who played so many seasons for Valencia in La Liga. He's wonderful, he is the best in the world at saving penalties. He also has reflexes and is very fast (think Keylor Navas fast). Valencia let him go for free to Flamengo because he was 32, but goalkeepers can play up until they're 40. IF the management would grant me extra funds (like 5 million) I'd go for Babacar from Fiorentina. His contract is running out in a year and they'd want to make some money, For 5 million a player like Khouma Babacar is worth it. No way this team wouldn't do good in this season in the PL: ................Diego Alves (1 mil.).............. Maybe Babacar from Fiorentina if I can have extra founding. You tell me if this team looks bad. If it couldn't get in the PL as far as top 8. Now compare it to what's being done right now. Diafra Sakho having a medical. What has Diafra Sakho done in his life as a professional striker by the age of 29? Not much. And a fee of 10 million will be paid! Then there's a winger coming in, there are talks with WBA for Matt Phillips (there's apparently a bid of 9 million). Or Scott Arfield who plays for the worst attacking team in the PL (Burnley). Oh, they're 7th you say? They're not going to be 7th forever. And their defensive players are very good, but attacking players like Arfield haven't done anything. Nicolas Gaitan would cost 13 million. Andre Schurrle would cost even more than that. Really disappointed in the way this campaign is going. I just think I could have done better Pardon?
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Icepick Tony Chester 12 Jan 18 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
I'm not trying to be a know it all here, but it appears incredibly insane to spend 10 million on Diafra Sakho and bid for Arfield. You have let's say a squad like Palace's: you need a gk, you need a better right wingback than Ward, you definitely need strikers who score goals, cover on the wings for Zaha and Townsend. Where can you get the money from? Well, only by selling players. Which players can actually bring money in? Riedewald was a suggestion, but with Dann's long injury selling a center back is out of the question. So you get to have 25 million to spend. Get Andone from Deportivo who is an amazingly dedicated striker (runs up and down and harasses defenders) and is in bad terms momentarily with the management there. They didn't sell for 13 million in the summer, but they would now. This would be the marque signing. Get Nils Petersen from Freiburg (incredibly underrated and playing for a team so small that it couldn't ask for more than 7 million- Freiburg: 48 goals in 92 games for Freiburg in the Bundesliga, but actually in just 4800 minutes played). Get a 3rd striker for free- Asamoah Gyan, Obafemi Martins, Emenike- whichever one is fit and the club is willing to part with. Even Cheick Diabate, cause he's out of contract. Or Imoh Ezekiel, 24 year old formerly of Standard Liege and Anderlecht. He's out of contract and is definitely fit. Not the best striker in terms of scoring, but he's incredibly fast and would be much better than Frazier Campbell as 4th striker. I think he eve scored against Tottenham in the Europa League 2 years ago. Get a left footed winger from: For right back go for Danny da Costa from Eintracht. Do you know this guy? He's a beast. Look him up on the internet if you don't know him. Physically powerful, but fast as well, runs up and down the flank, just 24, played a lot for Germany U21. He hardly played for Eintracht this year. They bought him in the summer for just 1 million. They play 3-5-2 and use Timothy Chandler or Wolf on Danny da Costa's position. All other young right backs who I like would cost 5 million or more: Yedlin, Rafael from Lyon, Mitchell Weiser from Hertha, Passlack from Hoffe, Widmer from Udinese, Alexander Arnold, Ricardo Esgaio from Braga, so having no money it would be logical to go for Danny da Costa as he'd be available at the price they got him for cause they just don't use him. There would also be Figueiras from Olympiakos as an option. Great going forward, was a starter with Milivojevic there, but this year Elabdellaoui played more. They're listening to offers around 1 million for him too. As right footed winger you'd need someone who accepts to be a backup for Zaha, at least at first. There was talk about Elyounousi, a fine young player, but he;d cost like 10 million. I thought of Nani, the former United winger, who's now 31, passed through Sporting, Valencia and is now at Lazio. Did a good Euro tournament 1 year ago. But he wants playing time. I thought about Cavaleiro from Wolverhampton, but they're fighting for promotion and wouldn't sell. Plus, I have no money left, what can I get? That's my 25 million spent right there, without asking for a single dime from the ownership. Oh yeah, I haven;t gotten a goalkeeper yet. That's cause I know the best one and he's almost free! Diego Alves, the Brazilian goalkeeper who played so many seasons for Valencia in La Liga. He's wonderful, he is the best in the world at saving penalties. He also has reflexes and is very fast (think Keylor Navas fast). Valencia let him go for free to Flamengo because he was 32, but goalkeepers can play up until they're 40. IF the management would grant me extra funds (like 5 million) I'd go for Babacar from Fiorentina. His contract is running out in a year and they'd want to make some money, For 5 million a player like Khouma Babacar is worth it. No way this team wouldn't do good in this season in the PL: ................Diego Alves (1 mil.).............. Maybe Babacar from Fiorentina if I can have extra founding. You tell me if this team looks bad. If it couldn't get in the PL as far as top 8. Now compare it to what's being done right now. Diafra Sakho having a medical. What has Diafra Sakho done in his life as a professional striker by the age of 29? Not much. And a fee of 10 million will be paid! Then there's a winger coming in, there are talks with WBA for Matt Phillips (there's apparently a bid of 9 million). Or Scott Arfield who plays for the worst attacking team in the PL (Burnley). Oh, they're 7th you say? They're not going to be 7th forever. And their defensive players are very good, but attacking players like Arfield haven't done anything. Nicolas Gaitan would cost 13 million. Andre Schurrle would cost even more than that. Really disappointed in the way this campaign is going. I just think I could have done better Well, based on your 'football knowledge' since your firsts posts on here, I don't.
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andyachtie Monte Giberto 12 Jan 18 8.15pm | |
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LOL Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Well, based on your 'football knowledge' since your firsts posts on here, I don't.
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mattteo 12 Jan 18 8.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Well, based on your 'football knowledge' since your firsts posts on here, I don't. Hey, it's toothpick trying to be a prick again! Go away from my topics
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miles18 Telford 12 Jan 18 8.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Well, based on your 'football knowledge' since your firsts posts on here, I don't. Agreed.
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mattteo 12 Jan 18 8.45pm | |
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Originally posted by dp
Don’t let yourself get so wound up Matteo. Whilst I doubt that your proposed transfer strategy is likely, realistic or likely to result in Palace getting into the top 8, I am not going to get into the slagging off. I disagree with you on Benteke and Wickham, amongst other things. I also don’t think that signing the number of players that you say in January would be sensible. However, I am happy to defer to your expertise.
Lack of education and respect are unfortunately common among others
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se25 rudy se25 12 Jan 18 10.51pm | |
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Matteo - That's what injured Premier League who have been out of action do- go to low Championship clubs to get playing time and get back into shape Your claim was that recently injured It simply isn't true. Originally posted by mattteo
How does that not make my case stronger? If a club fighting for promotion takes a player from the PL who has just began training, why wouldn't a lower club want Connor Wickham, who is a more accomplished and known player than James Wilson? ' Edited by se25 rudy (12 Jan 2018 10.53pm)
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Icepick Tony Chester 13 Jan 18 12.46am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Hey, it's toothpick trying to be a prick again! Go away from my topics Well now, that's just being slightly rude,
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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 13 Jan 18 7.35am | |
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Of course i will allow you yours, I just do not rate it thats all.
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dp Tunbridge Wells 13 Jan 18 10.40am | |
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Guys, just stop. Matteo has put some effort into putting this thread together, it sparked some interesting (I hope) debate - but yet again we have to descend into name calling. If we are going to continue to debate this, can we at least be respectful of the effort Matteo has put in. In my business it is called tackling the ball (I.e. the opinion) and not the man (I.e. Matteo).
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andyachtie Monte Giberto 13 Jan 18 10.50am | |
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But Matteo is over inflated, just like the 'ball' Originally posted by dp
Guys, just stop. Matteo has put some effort into putting this thread together, it sparked some interesting (I hope) debate - but yet again we have to descend into name calling. If we are going to continue to debate this, can we at least be respectful of the effort Matteo has put in. In my business it is called tackling the ball (I.e. the opinion) and not the man (I.e. Matteo).
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mattteo 13 Jan 18 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by se25 rudy
Matteo - That's what injured Premier League who have been out of action do- go to low Championship clubs to get playing time and get back into shape Your claim was that recently injured It simply isn't true. Edited by se25 rudy (12 Jan 2018 10.53pm)
We were off topic anyway
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