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johnno42000 Flag 09 Jan 18 11.11am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by swisseagle93

Well the issue here is for both goals Hennessey is literally the only person responsible the first goal is a clear positioning fault a player should never be able to score inbetween the first post and the keeper! And the second one Hennessey should be on it of course someone is going to try and push the ball in the net at the second post with such a direction.
Hennessey doesn't comand inside his box and that damages us and also doesn't help the back four... Sorry but in the other keepers case I am okay to argue especialy for Butland because he is a top keeper but for Hennessey I can't find anything to excuse him now...

It is simply not true about the near post theory. All keepers let goals in at their near post. If a player shoots hard from 6-10 yards then there is a good chance the keeper will not be able to react in time. A deflection (like last night) or through a group of players makes it almost unstoppable. The first goal was awful defending with no one tracking the run from Stephens.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 09 Jan 18 11.20am

Originally posted by cpj

Generally no - perhaps the odd goal here and there - but we'd have to spend a LOT of money to get someone that good, money which would be better spent on another forward or a better defender (or two). Whether WH or JS plays - they will make the odd good save and make the odd mistake. People need to accept that.


Edited by cpj (09 Jan 2018 10.46am)

We’re scoring goals though CPJ.

 


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cpj Flag Kent 09 Jan 18 11.34am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

We’re scoring goals though CPJ.

You're happy with our number of forwards?

 

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 09 Jan 18 11.43am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

I might be wrong because I haven't seen a replay. But I thought when Stephens took the extra touch, he'd f****d it up, because hennessey only had to come forward a yard and spread himself and he'd have saved it.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 09 Jan 18 11.58am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

To be fair the first goal got a very slight nick of the defender which made it look worse. But not a great game from Wayne.

It went straight through him, deflection or not he should have it! He has to go now!

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 09 Jan 18 12.07pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

Speroni v Arsenal? No difference.

Speroni was good when he was younger, Hennessey never even got near as good as Speroni used to be!! We need a new keeper, top priority......Carson looked half decent the other night...?

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 09 Jan 18 12.09pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Man City didn't score against Hennessey did they, just saying.

His one great game of the season, then back to being s***e!

 

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 09 Jan 18 12.13pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Living in the bubble of the PL millions we now think it is our god given right to consider going to the richest club on the continent and get their reserve keeper. I see a lot of lower league football and am convinced there are plenty of goalies good enough for us, Yet we , and most of the other top level clubs, lack a scouting system that can identify a quality lower league goalie. That I find surprising and maddening.


Originally posted by merganser

Hennessy commanded his area and was alert throughout, making some decent saves.

Every time he concedes a goal, he is made a scapegoat for the whole defence.

I wouldn’t say there are more than half-a-dozen better keepers in the premier League than him and Speroni.

Can any of their critics identify affordable replacements?


Edited by DutchEagleJohan (09 Jan 2018 12.17pm)

 

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Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 09 Jan 18 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Dancer Cat Add Dancer Cat as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Living in the bubble of the PL millions we now think it is our god given right to consider going to the richest club on the continent and get their reserve keeper. I see a lot of lower league football and am convinced there are plenty of goalies good enough for us, Yet we , and most of the other top level clubs, lack a scouting system that can identify a quality lower league goalie. That I find surprising and maddening.

I'd agree with this - all, more than any other position on the pitch (IMHO) it's a confidence thing - look at how useless Hart currently is, compared to how good he was a couple of years back. Therefore actively scouting someone else's reserve keeper - who is likely to be low on confidence, I think is a mistake.

WH was languishing in the reserves when we got him, as was McCarthy.

We should aim higher & take a punt on "the next JS". It might not work - a la SM - but at least it isn't "same old, same old"

 

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swisseagle93 Flag 09 Jan 18 1.49pm Send a Private Message to swisseagle93 Add swisseagle93 as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Living in the bubble of the PL millions we now think it is our god given right to consider going to the richest club on the continent and get their reserve keeper. I see a lot of lower league football and am convinced there are plenty of goalies good enough for us, Yet we , and most of the other top level clubs, lack a scouting system that can identify a quality lower league goalie. That I find surprising and maddening.

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (09 Jan 2018 12.17pm)

For sure Johnstone from Villa and Archer even though he plays for Milwall have showed some real quality and could be ready for the big step and both of them are relatively young and I would also add Maxwell (Preston) and George Long (Wimbledon on loan from Sheffield) who will surely become a top keeper. After there are a few good keepers all around europe like Scufett from Udinese, Paul Bernadoni from Clermont or Sergio Herrera from Osasuna...
There will surely be less expensive than going for a Gazzaniga from Tottenham who will ask 10M at least...

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 09 Jan 18 2.34pm

Originally posted by cpj

You're happy with our number of forwards?

No, but I’m sure that we have enough to spend to see that we are restocked at both ends of the field.

 


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Sheenewoodeagle1 Flag Ringwood dorset 09 Jan 18 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Sheenewoodeagle1 Add Sheenewoodeagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by swisseagle93

Well the issue here is for both goals Hennessey is literally the only person responsible the first goal is a clear positioning fault a player should never be able to score inbetween the first post and the keeper! And the second one Hennessey should be on it of course someone is going to try and push the ball in the net at the second post with such a direction.
Hennessey doesn't comand inside his box and that damages us and also doesn't help the back four... Sorry but in the other keepers case I am okay to argue especialy for Butland because he is a top keeper but for Hennessey I can't find anything to excuse him now...

we all have differing opinions I suppose. Papa was too wide, Delaney too central and Cabaye was slow in protecting the back line. Perhaps Wayne may have got his arm out a little quicker but the ball was hit from a relatively close to the goal and at speed. not,in my humble opinion just a classic case of a goal keeper being nearly beaten at his near post.Neither of our current goal keepers are the answer.

 


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